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Some nice ideas in there! We have heard some rumors about Rogue appearing in CM2. Wonder if there's any truth to them.
But again, I don't want to see any major X-Men appearances before their cinematic debut. I don't mind some post-credit scenes or stingers, but they need to make their first full appearance in a grand way and not on Disney+. I mean, I know streaming is becoming pretty prestige now, but Disney/Marvel Studios is still THE biggest (yes, commercial) platform in the current movie industry. The X-Men should not be relegated to Disney+ haha. No ma'am.
After they're established, that's another thing. I would love an Xavier Files series like you mentioned. An anthology series so the X-world can catch up in the MCU. X-Factor Investigations has been a long-time pipe dream so hopefully that could happen too!
I like the idea of using Disney+ to intorduce each individual backstory. That would be innovative in how you could promote an MCU Xmen movie. I think the right casting of Logan and the later establishment of him in the movies maybe as part of the 2nd one would be fine. Colossus should be there too and Iceman should be based on the original concept not the Bendis hamfisted stuff
This is pretty interesting. Although I didnt really like the ultimate magneto version as mich as 616. Magneto sending Wolverine to kill the Professor always felt a bit forced to me although its not terrible. Now someone else sending him would be good. If not the Weapon X leaders themselves maybe Sinister or even Cassandra Nova
1952
SHIELD Agent Peggy Carter introduces a young boy -rescued from Argentinian Nazi Hydra- to three more children at a top secret SHIELD site at Alamogordo. The girl introduces herself as Destiny. Peggy corrects that her name is actually Irene, but the girl eerily says they'll all take new names in time. One boy is bald, the other wears a black whoopee cap. Peggy leaves the room to let the children watch Bozo the Clown, saying thier guard will keep them safe. "He's the best there is at what he does."
1987
The camera opens on the eyes of Magneto, filled with tears. Behind him, a bald man is crawling on the ground toward him, desperately pleading, "Eric, wait."
Magneto lowers his eyes behind his helmet. "That's not my name anymore Charles." They are in Kursk, in an abandoned nuclear silo, surrounded by the bodies of dead Soviet soldiers and separatists. Magneto is one button press away from launch.
"Irene knew what you'd do. She told me. She told SHIELD. They've sent the Pyms."
"It doesn't matter Charles. It's all a lie. All of it."
"I know."
In a fury, Magneto spins around to face his crippled friend. "YOU KNEW SHIELD WAS HYDRA? ALL THIS TIME? After what happened to Logan... Shaw... when we lost Raven... Did Irene tell y--"
"Of course."
"Then it's too late. What will be will be." The fire of the missile silo lights Charles' face. "auf wiedersehen, mein freund."
1997
Charles Xavier's wheelchair is being pushed through the courtyard in front of (Captain Marvel's movie's SHIELD headquarters) by a young man in red glasses. They arrive at a park bench where young Agent Nick Fury waits with a banker's box of old SHIELD files. Fury greets the elder man with a sarcastic comment and asks if the boy is his son. "He's a rescue." As Xavier rifles through the box, we see folders titled Cerebro, Hazard, Wolverine, Mystique.
Fury informs the pair that mutants are still largely an unknown among SHIELD's upper echelon, but he's followed the money to unspecified deterrent technologies being developed throughout the world. "There's a lot of hate and fear in this world, Professor."
"Which is why we have to work together to protect its future."
2012
Christine Everhart is reporting from the devastation of downtown Boston, where millions of Americans lost their lives in an assumed terrorist attack. She informs the audience that the assumed ground zero of the detonation was the elite "Hellfire Club", where owner billionaires Sebastian Shaw and Warren Worthington, Professor Charles Xavier, and several other members were caught in the blast and killed. The President is headed there shortly, no terrorists groups are claiming responsibility yet, and NATO members are sending resources to aid in recovery.
Agents Coulson and May are surveying the wreckage, and mention to each other their headaches get worse the longer they stay there. Science Agent Weaver leads teams to take samples and readings. Coulson heads to a secure bunker to interrogate a small group of rescue workers, seen saving lives and evacuating the detonation survivors. He finds Agent Isabelle Hartley, passed out on the ground, and evident claw marks in stone, steel, and wood.
In a stolen van, Storm and Nightcrawler are leaving the city of Boston. Both are beaten and bruised badly. Kurt looks behind her to the people in the van, turns to Ororo as she drives, and asks "What's next?" Ororo continues to look at the road ahead says "We do what we do best. We get lost. We get safe. We rescue. We teach. So that this never happens again."
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I know there's a lot of people on this thread and elsewhere that believe starting with adult X-Men is a mistake, but I have faith that jumping into the middle of the MCU's empty spaces is best. Give us a full-grown, determined Storm. A wise and gregarious Nightcrawler. A weary and disillusioned Cyclops.
I've said it before, but what *I* would do is introduce Laura FIRST. Maybe a spin on her early Uncanny appearances, where the Avengers are investigating some murders (if they don't want to delve into NYX by having her offing pimps, they could have it be Hydra scientists, or others involved in metahuman experimentation, which would more closely align with the Avengers' jurisdiction. Taking on street-level punks would be more in the Defenders' wheelhouse) and are shocked when they discover that the killer is a young girl (they HAVE to keep Dafne Keen. She so perfectly owned the role). At some point, Old Man Rogers mentions he heard stories about a soldier in the Canadian Special Forces during the war, rumored to be more animal than man and unable to die, that Laura reminds him of. Between gutting scientists/pimps/whatever with extreme prejudice, Laura is also trying to track down the man she was created from, and is pursuing sightings of Logan himself. Use her to build up the mystique and mystery of the Wolverine before finally revealing him.
Dafeen would be too told by 2024. She is already now in her puberty phase.
I know many X-Fans came to love and invest in X23 because of Logan but let see the reality of the film, The concept of X23 does not fit the MCU formula. To ask for X23 is to ask for MCU to make a movie in the same veins as Logan. MCU is not capable of it.
A lot of you are speaking of Disney plus, Disney plus so far has been the most disappointing of the streaming wars. This would have been a different conversation if it was HBO Max.
If HBO owned X-Men, There would not be need for movies.
X-23 didn't have to start off as a kid, she could be a teenager or young adult.
Sure she does, she fits in all stories that fit with the X-men. Not every story in the comics is Logan's quality, which was an exceptional movie by Fox X-men standards. They made X-men: Origins - Wolverine and X-men: Last Stand. WB owns HBO and they don't put every property that deserves a show on there, and until recently they didn't have any, period. Until recently this is what you could expect from DC adaptions:
Batman hasn't had a tv show in years, and last one was terrible who focused on everyone but him. They've never attempted a big budget live action Batman show on HBO.
I disagree, they'd have a show or two and make movies anyway.If HBO owned X-Men, There would not be need for movies.
Feige isn't out here telling randos exact story beats and team members of a movie that doesn't have a writer.
I did give a click though, so I'm being a hypocrite and actively making things worse.
She has to start off a kid. Making her an adult or a teen dumbs the themes down and lowers the film's story standard. To press the matter further she is introduced as a kid in Logan, The Comics and X-Men Evolution. What good excuse would there be to age her up? It may be good enough for the MCU because they have to keep things unnecessarily kid-friendly, which in default lowers their standard of what you can do with a story. It is not a good excuse for X-Men. If you want an aged up Laura connected to Wolverine emotionally, Lady Deathstrike is the answer.
Fox X-Men standard when good was telling more thoughtful mature stories about comics. That is the highest standard for comic book movies. Its funny that you talk of standard but don't realise asking for Laura to be aged up is lowering the standard of movies.You may as well ask for Magneto to be a grown man in nazi camps or mutants should not be hated and feared because Avengers and F4 are not hated and feared?
Sure she does, she fits in all stories that fit with the X-men. Not every story in the comics is Logan's quality, which was an exceptional movie by Fox X-men standards. They made X-men: Origins - Wolverine and X-men: Last Stand. WB owns HBO and they don't put every property that deserves a show on there, and until recently they didn't have any, period. Until recently this is what you could expect from DC adaptions:
There is no need for a Green Lantern Corps movie since HBO MAX is giving it show. This would have suited X-Men best.I disagree, they'd have a show or two and make movies anyway.