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    I keep reading you say that Endgame was supposed to be a dystopian-future time travel movie, and I keep thinking you just wanted it to be for the sake of having an “argument” to make.

    It wasn’t supposed to be that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    I keep reading you say that Endgame was supposed to be a dystopian-future time travel movie, and I keep thinking you just wanted it to be for the sake of having an “argument” to make.

    It wasn’t supposed to be that.
    Yeah less Dystopian and more post WWII Europe where the economies and government were in shambles in most places and it took time to rebuild was watching a bio on General George C. Marshall yesterday made me think of the parallels between post snap and post WWII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Fox gave us boobies, ass, and actual full frontal nudity with Mystique! Too bad no sex scenes forever with the Disney merger.
    They also gave Colossus (your username) one word in a entire movie.


    "Mystique"

    Masterful dialogue!
    The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    2013 4 years after Disney bought Marvel
    I don't feel like getting kinks but there are Tony and Pepper, Peter and Gamora, Steve and Peggy, & Scott and Hope off the top if my head all post Disney.
    Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Because they are, MCU movies can get more childish than kid friendly Saturday morning cartoons. The current slate of DC cartoons are not as kid friendly as MCU movies. Marvel stopped pushing the envelope with films and cartoons after the Disney buyout.
    Very true statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Movies aren't the comics. Thing is, I think the X-Men make more sense in their own bubble (mutants being feared for their powers is very undermined by other superhumans doing the same kind of stuff and not getting the same reaction), not to mention the X-Men IP being so large, it can support its own cinematic universe. I also think, in the MCU, a lot of the more obscure characters won't be as likely to get a chance to get on the big screen, due to the superstars being more marketable. But, hey, since it is happening, hope they do it well.
    Another true statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    X-Men is part of marvel comics. Mutants have daily run-ins with other heroes. its not only fair, it feels natural.
    Hey, I like some of the X-Men comics and I'm okay with them being in the Marvel Universe. I'm just saying that I think the movies showed that they can work by themselves and that doing so erases some of the plot holes in the premise. Mileage may vary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    The movies are based on the back bones of comics. The back bones not ''faithfully adapted'' since the movies don't necessarily have to truly follow the comics. what disney needs to do is reflect how marvel comics are different from each other in their movies.
    Uh, yeah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Because of the cinematic universe phenomenon, I like to play with the idea Batman Begins, released in 2005 and Superman Returns released in 2006 took place in the same universe.the two movies have a sharp difference with world building,tone and setting. it nicely reflected the different worlds of superman and batman from the comics that are still set in the same universe. It was the same feeling of X-Men 2003 and Spiderman 2004.
    Not sure I see the point of stuffing stuff together that doesn't go together (Wolverine almost cameoing in SM1 notwithstanding).

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Everything about the MCU is so similar to the other, Wakanda and Asgard. Ant Man and Civil War. The comics does things a little different. the sterilization you are seeing in the mcu is not the back bones of comics but ''the disney formula'' and it sucks.
    On the other hand, the movies are far more interconnected then the comics are. Different mediums playing to their strengths.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Does dark phoenix leave any good legacy for the series?
    Does it have to? The legacy is defined by the series as a whole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    What was the legacy of X-Men 1?
    Working alongside SM1 to jumpstart the modern comic book movie craze.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    How and why is it still so relevant on approaching comic books as a serious movie genre?
    Is it? The Nolan Batman movies and early DCEU really took over that department.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Their success has zero impact of what X-Men can be when X-Men is not getting Simon Kinberged.
    And yet the MCU is still going strong with definitive plans for its future, while the Fox X-Men movies spent their last years struggling to find their way forward and decide what they were going to be. Look, I do actually like the Fox movies, believe it or not, but I don't think anyone really knew what they wanted to do with it and I think that was, in part, why they went out with a whimper instead of a bang.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Disney has never attempted to make an xmen movie until now. they never attempted to make an xmen cartoon before fox sold.
    Yeah? They never attempted to make an Iron Man movie until they did. Same with Captain America, Thor, the Avengers, and everyone else that's come down the pike. The fact that they've never done it before has no bearing on what their success will be when they do. There's a first time for everything. Heck, even Fox has never attempted to make an X-Men movie until they did that first one back in '99.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    perhaps disney should have done an xmen cartoon after WATX, it would have given them some ideas on approaching X-Men movies since no doubt fans will rail on the cartoon asking why does this cartoon suck so bad and feels so unrealistically ''kid-friendly'' to the other xmen cartoons.
    Until they actually make an X-Men cartoon, I don't see the point in worrying about whether its liked or not. Besides, it's not like Marvel Studios will be making it, which is the production company we're wondering about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    X-Men has never struggled with unbearable humor.
    I'm having Origins: Wolverine flashbacks right about now. Something about CGI claws and a bathroom sink?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    it is not mutually exclusive in xmen, never was or will ever be, X-men has few funny moments with most of their serious movies, which is good. x-men is not batman v superman. Wolverine is one of the ''funniest'' characters in the series.
    So, it's okay when Wolverine does it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Its not about edginess, its about what a story can require. War movies don't necessary have the requirements of a high school movie or a romantic comedy.
    I'm honestly not seeing that level of nuance in your discussion here. This is pretty much what I've been saying the whole time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Talk about silly or a movie trying to push an intended effect but not completely getting it everytime I have to see fat Thor or intending to make a movie that tackles dystopian time travel stories.
    All I can say if that Thor's Endgame arc was only a joke, the Asgard scenes would've handled that a lot differently and that Endgame is not a "dystopian time travel story." Therefore, the question is not if the humor injected was right for a dystopian story, but for an Avengers story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Until they actually make an X-Men cartoon, I don't see the point in worrying about whether its liked or not. Besides, it's not like Marvel Studios will be making it, which is the production company we're wondering about.
    Cort Lane, who's basically the de-facto chief of Marvel Animation (or whatever's left of it at this point) teased they had new productions involving the Fox properties in an interview. And will probably be announced at D23.

    Whether it will be better then some of their other animated offerings as of late, remains to be seen.

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    This dream cast from Reddit makes my heart flutter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Fox gave us boobies, ass, and actual full frontal nudity with Mystique! Too bad no sex scenes forever with the Disney merger.
    So does pornhub. Perhaps we should get them to make "the Iceman freezes twice"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KangMiRae View Post
    This dream cast from Reddit makes my heart flutter.

    ♥️ I’m in love with that pic of Evan Rachel Wood. That’s a really great cast in looks and talent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyknight View Post
    ♥️ I’m in love with that pic of Evan Rachel Wood. That’s a really great cast in looks and talent!
    Thats a really good cast if they could get them.
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    I wish Karl Urban was younger - Dredd proves he can convey emotion with his eyes covered, which is essential for Cyclops.
    Dark does not mean deep.

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    Marvel must cast Chris Pine as Cyclops. They have to gather all of the Chris-es.

    Evans
    Hemsworth
    Pratt

    ...and now Pine

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    Quote Originally Posted by KangMiRae View Post
    This dream cast from Reddit makes my heart flutter.

    Most of those ppl are 40+ or about to be 40. Plus a few of them are already in the MCU
    The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.


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