The future of the X-Men on the big screen

[Killerbee911]

Actually the producer is lord over the project, everything has to go through him or her. The producer takes credit for all aspects of a movie. Feige is doing a good job at what he is doing with the MCU, but the big question is can he ventured out of the MCU formula.
So far he has showed he can’t.
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Feige was a on producer of X1, X2, X3 and Deadpool. Kevin Feige is also a producer of Electra,Blade 3, Daredevil, Hulk 1 and 2. This whole chain of thought of what on what type of movies "Feige makes is silly"

[Confuzzled]

Like Feige had the level of control on those non-MCU films like he has on the MCU films. He threatened to walk if Disney didn't fire Ike Perlmutter and make him the ultimate power over Marvel Studios (a necessary threat though to ensure the success and survival of the MCU in the long run).

Having said that, isn't Black Panther proof that he can venture out of the MCU formula and give a director, if he or she is established enough, the required creative freedom?

[Theleviathan]

He does the opposite to directors. If he brings directors in and let them do their own thing, MCU would not be sterilized, there should be no formula there.Thor has no reason to follow the footsteps GOTG. Spiderman and Ant-Man should not be the samething. Captain Marvel should not be retreading Iron Man 1, down to carol trying to do Stark's quips. There are no directors in MCU, there is only a formula.

Their formula is making a good blockbuster. Their style, which is director driven, has been shown to have quite a degree of range.

[Wiccan]

Ike Perlmutter just limited Marvel Studios. If you think the current movies are too formulatic, with him it would be even more. They have only gotten better ever since he left.

[Maestro 216]

Ike Perlmutter just limited Marvel Studios. If you think the current movies are too formulatic, with him it would be even more. They have only gotten better ever since he left.

If he was in charge Black Panther and Captain Marvel would have only come out this year. Also Inhumans would have gotten their movie. >.>

[Wiccan]

If he was in charge Black Panther and Captain Marvel would have only come out this year. Also Inhumans would have gotten their movie. >.>

He didn't even want to make Captain Marvel and Black Panther. He only allowed them if Feige accepted to make Inhumans too, which is why Inhumans got dropped as soon as Feige got full control.

[luprki]

Feige was a on producer of X1, X2, X3 and Deadpool. Kevin Feige is also a producer of Electra,Blade 3, Daredevil, Hulk 1 and 2. This whole chain of thought of what on what type of movies "Feige makes is silly"

All those movies you named Feige was an associate producer, executive producer or co-producer. He was not the main producer which oversees all aspects of production.

Having said that, isn't Black Panther proof that he can venture out of the MCU formula and give a director, if he or she is established enough, the required creative freedom?

No

Ike Perlmutter just limited Marvel Studios. If you think the current movies are too formulatic, with him it would be even more. They have only gotten better ever since he left.

Disney couldn’t control Perlmutter, so they choose Feige, because they can control him better.
Feige is just an employee, he has to answer to Alan Horn and whatever Horn says is final.
Feign is just the face of the MCU, but Horn is the ruler.

[Maestro 216]

But Feige at least on a public level seems easier to work with over Ike.

[Wiccan]

Disney couldn’t control Perlmutter, so they choose Feige, because they can control him better.
Feige is just an employee, he has to answer to Alan Horn and whatever Horn says is final.
Feign is just the face of the MCU, but Horn is the ruler.

LOL. Disney didn't have anything againt Ike Perlmutter. He's still in charge of Marvel Entertainment. The change was that Marvel Studios used to be part of Marvel Entertainment(which is why they had to report to Perlmutter) and Feige asked to be separate. Disney had no reason to go against Perlmutter as Marvel and the MCU were already/still doing great while he was on(though now without him they're doing even better).

And weren't you just saying a while ago that Feige was controlling everything which is why the directors can't do anything? You need to stop making up some ridiculous new theory every time someone refutes your arguments. Just because Alan Horn is Feige's superior in Disney doesn't mean he has anything to do with the MCU creatively.

[Theleviathan]

You need to stop making up some ridiculous new theory every time someone refutes your arguments..

Quoted for extreme accuracy.

[Killerbee911]

All those movies you named Feige was an associate producer, executive producer or co-producer. He was not the main producer which oversees all aspects of production.

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What do you think that means. Executive producer and Studio Head are way different things

Let be clear about something Kevin Feige gets wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much credit for Marvel success. Which is why I am also not giving him as much credit for "creative" movie making flaws so to speak you guys are want to blame him for right now.

What Kevin Feige deserve credit for 23 movies that feel cohesively that they are in the same universe despite having different themes and types of superheroes. What you some of guys are calling a flaw is it is a feature , It is like comic event and Marvel uses Stuart Immonen, R.B. Silva, Pepe Larraz, Jim Cheung on art versus a event with Joe Mad, Alex Ross, Rob Liefeld, John Romita Jr on event. Which is going to go better? Obviously the first one because while being different stuff they feel similar.

[Wissenschaft]

I feel like the russo brothers deserve a lot of credit for making some of the most successful marvel films and really fleshing out several characters.

[Killerbee911]

I feel like the russo brothers deserve a lot of credit for making some of the most successful marvel films and really fleshing out several characters.

We live in some weird world where if X-men movies where made the same quality and maturity level as Black Panther, Infinity Wars, Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War. That it would be bad thing . That is fate they are scared of apparently "Oh no marvel is going to make X-men movie quality of Winter soldier".

[Wiccan]

To be fair we don't know how the X-Men movies are gonna go. I don't think they'll be anything like The Winter Soldier. Even when it comes to being mature, they'll probably have a bit more humor. And that's fine, as long as it's also really serious when it needs to be(unlike say Ragnarok and GOTG).

[Beaddle]

We live in some weird world where if X-men movies where made the same quality and maturity level as Black Panther, Infinity Wars, Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War. That it would be bad thing . That is fate they are scared of apparently "Oh no marvel is going to make X-men movie quality of Winter soldier".

There is no Disney movie that has the same level of quality and maturity. Its either Disney ends up with a more lighthearted juvenile plot, reduce the drama or they mess up the technical parts of their movies.

Their formula is making a good blockbuster. Their style, which is director driven, has been shown to have quite a degree of range.

The forumla is about making processed factory movies. Good blockbusters would be depending on what your tastes and expectations are. Obviously I found Disney very limited with Marvel. You will be contradicting by admitting they have a formula, if they have a formula then there is nothing about their movies that is director driven.

I’m actually surprise Disney+ is going this route. Disney+ would be the perfect media to introduce mutants. But I guess Feige’s limited vision can’t go beyond of the MCU. Everything he has produced by himself is a MCU movie, now he is producing four Disney+ shows and all are part of the MCU. Four show with characters we have seen for years. Can this guy do anything different?

The other obsession with Feige is to sell everything about Marvel through the MCU. He obviously has a limited mind. What happened to standalone films, I prefer what DC is doing. The upcoming Batman movies won't have any big tie ins to the DCEU. It makes movies more authentic.

Spider-Man: Far From Home becoming the biggest Spider-Man film of all time despite coming on the heels of Endgame says otherwise though. People are hungry for MCU more than ever, especially in overseas markets like Asia and Latin America.

Everyone keeps pointing out that FFH is the highest grossing Spiderman film of all time but where are you placing it in your Spiderman film rankings? Its the problem with Disney, they only care about cashing in the money , they don't care about making the best films they possibly can. Difference between FFH and Spiderverse/Spiderman 2.