“Heroes in Crisis” Limited Series by Tom King & Clay Mann to Start in September

[ShinySephiroth]

Thought of that (La'gaan), and I am thinking it is part of

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"the version" of events that either Booster/Harley saw while inside, so they thought all the killings weren't at the same time, which would be a clue to speed.

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Yikes, I hate writing that.

Also, let's ponder that

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Wally West, using super speed, to frame Harley, inserted that smiling toy down the corpse of a deceased friend/ally/fellow hero.

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DAMN IT.

Ugh, I'd forgotten about that. My wife hasn't been reading (I've just been telling her) and she just stared at me incredulously when I just told her (I hadn't told her about that toy originally).

Your wife makes a lot of good points.

She's pretty cool imo

[Rend20]

Thought of that (La'gaan), and I am thinking it is part of

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"the version" of events that either Booster/Harley saw while inside, so they thought all the killings weren't at the same time, which would be a clue to speed.

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I suppose that's a viable explanation.

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But if King wanted to promote the misdirection, then I think having them actually being shown to kill others in the simulation(s) besides Wally would have been the way to go. Neither one of them even appeared to be around during Gnarrk's death scene in issue six.

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[adamishere1]

I literally have no words....

[lemonpeace]

This....oh man this book is something else

[ShinySephiroth]

I suppose that's a viable explanation.

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But if King wanted to promote the misdirection, then I think having them actually being shown to kill others in the simulation(s) besides Wally would have been the way to go. Neither one of them even appeared to be around during Gnarrk's death scene in issue six.

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I think this is further evidence of last minute rewrites

[Godlike13]

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Just one thing. Wally’s mind is broken. No one is pretending that this is in character for him, but it’s not suppose to be. That the whole point. His mind has snapped. He’s out of his mind, out of his character.

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[WallyWestFlash]

Now that Im thinking about it this whole thing really just looks like it was done because someone from higher up or whatever wanted to completely demolish Wally.

Looking at it from a story and specifically mystery story perspective everything is just kinda stuffed and forced in there.

It really looks like there was just an objective of destroying Wally and the "mystery" and all the threads were just haphazardly thrown around that.

What was the point of the puddlers? Booster and Harleys whole involvement? Lois and Superman revealing Sanctuary to the world?

Just seems like random crap to at most distract from what was going on with Wally. Otherwise it's just a bunch of weak, superfulous random events.

[Buried Alien]

Not giving up hope until # 9 drops.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Anthony Shaw]

This is why Alan Moore created homage characters instead of the Charlton heroes for Watchmen.

The Watchmen become iconic while the Charlton remained usable.

Everybody won.

[Badou]

Not giving up hope until # 9 drops.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Hope for what exactly? That it all wasn't real? But even so Wally actively participated in covering up the deaths he caused in such ridiculous ways that it can't really be justified. Going as far as moving bodies and planting false evidence to throw Bruce and Barry off track and even creating simulations to blame the deaths on Booster and Harley. Those are abhorrent actions.

[Denirac]

Not giving up hope until # 9 drops.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

What is Hope like? I ran out a while back

[Dred]

Hope for what exactly? That it all wasn't real? But even so Wally actively participated in covering up the deaths he caused in such ridiculous ways that it can't really be justified. Going as far as moving bodies and planting false evidence to throw Bruce and Barry off track and even creating simulations to blame the deaths on Booster and Harley. Those are abhorrent actions.

He mutilated corpses, for God's sake.

I don't know what anyone is waiting for at this point.

[KOSLOX]

This is why Alan Moore created homage characters instead of the Charlton heroes for Watchmen.

The Watchmen become iconic while the Charlton remained usable.

Everybody won.

Wasn't his original intent to use the actual characters though, and he was told he couldn't?

Seems like editorial restraint might have also been an unsung hero in that.

[Nite-Wing]

No coming back from this Wally west when you do reprehensible stuff like this as a 2nd gen character it's over for good.
I still can't get over how pathetic it is that he's plagued by the memories of people he never met(as this is not the pre flashpoint Wally) and proceeded to kill all these heroes and frame Harley and Booster because he got triggered and for a speedster I guess that means omnidirectional death to everyone around him.

This series really isn't a crisis threatening the universe it's about a mental crisis for all the characters involved

[Tenzel Kim]

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Neither one of them even appeared to be around during Gnarrk's death scene in issue six.

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You're quite right. Another scene that doesn't fit what we see in this issue. In fact...

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...unless we are to assume that Wally created the Gnarrk death scene as part of the Booster or Harley simulation (which wouldn't make sense as they wouldn't be around to see it) then we know that not all of them actually died right away, making Wally's actions even more suspect. If they didn't die on the spot then his first priority would have been to get them help rather than to just leave them alone to die while he set up the scheme to point the clues as to their upcoming deaths to Harley and Booster.

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