"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does? - Gaff Blade Runner
"In a short time, this will be a long time ago." - Werner Slow West
"One of the biggest problems in the industry is apathy right now." - Dan Didio Co-Publisher of I Wonder Why That Is Comics
This twitter thread started by Saladin Ahmed might be of interest here:
A plot is likely not a complete work here, it's not even an outline. The plot is likely pitched to contain the main story beats and themes, but little about characters or backgrounds unless they are absolutely necessary for the plot. It's also something that nearly always gets adjusted to factor in the actual characters and environments used.most fans don't realize a HUGE part of which characters fight each other in monthly comics is determined by scheduling
it's like arranging playdates for supervillains
So I can't blame DC's editors for Tom King writing a dumpster fire. I can blame DC's editors for not discovering what a dumpster fire it was, not helping King fix it, and for publishing it.
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«Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])
Thank you. That seems pretty... dumb. Wasn't one of the points this issue that spoilers:end of spoilers Apparently then continuing to use the AI and self medicating is okay. That's the message I got got from that.
Past Wally should talk about his trauma (to Ted, Barbara and the rest because they can relate)?
Don‘t use Twitter, but I remember in the olden days you could have miniseries like HiC and, while not loved by everybody, it was mostly successful.
Maybe editors back then worked more professionally.
I can‘t imagine a Denny O‘Neil or Jim Shooter would‘ve greenlighted HiC.
I just finished reading and came here to also say it's terrible. So terrible I can't comprehend how it was allowed to exist, let alone allowed by multiple people at once. It's crazy when you think about it.
And now, a short play in three acts:
Act I
Everyone: We seem to be missing some toys. We are sad.
Enter Geoff. He lifts a refrigerator about one inch, and quickly snatches a toy trapped underneath.
Geoff: Hey, everyone. I've managed to rescue this Beloved Toy from under the fridge.
Everyone: Hooray!
Geoff: Also, it looks like there's about a dozen other toys trapped under the fridge. Give me some time, and I'll figure out how to rescue them, too.
Everyone: Double hooray!
Act II
Time passes. Lots of time.
Everyone: We're waiting, Geoff.
Geoff: Hey, I said it would take time. You don't want your toys to get squished, do you? Besides, you've got the Beloved Toy to play with, right?
Everyone: Yeah, but it seems to have gone missing...
Act III
Enter Tom accompanied by a sickly dog. He has a can of lighter fluid.
Tom: Hey, everyone! Wanna see some art?
Everyone: Is that the Beloved Toy?
Tom breaks a dozen (mostly) unused toys, smears the Beloved Toy in dog poop, and lights it on fire.
Everyone: What the hell, man?
Tom: Aw, no one cared about the Beloved Toy until I smeared it with dog poop and lit it on fire.
Enter Geoff. He is naked, and has painted himself blue. He is visibly excited.
Geoff: Hey everyone! I think I've figured out how to rescue all those trapped toys! I- why does the Beloved Toy smell like dog poop?
Tom exits to Hollywood, pursued by a bear.
While I can imagine there's a rabid number of conversations regarding 'Intent Vs. Execution' - this was a great series. Brave and beautiful. All contributors are, IMO, Masters of their Crafts and this was head and shoulders above the typical dross pumped out week after week.
The Sit-Down Interview segments were my favourites. I'm not a particular fan of the Bat-Family, but all the boys parts were a steamroller of emotions. Dyno.
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I'm not convinced the bad reception of HiC didn't have at least some reason for TK being fired from Batman. This whole thing was strange.