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    - So after the preview, Juggernaut insults Thor some more before punching him off the cliff while Thor's internal monologue whines about him being the "worst Thor ever". Thor has Screwbeard (ugh) send him a hammer that he immediately breaks on Juggernaut's helmet. Then he has Screwbeard send all the hammers and uses them to electrocute the cultists and clobbers Juggernaut while yelling about being the "god of #%#%#%# thunder" (ugh) before quickly running away. Notably Aaron completely ignores the fact Cain killed Cyttorak and gained all his powers in Amazing X-Men, and reduces him to just being Cyttorak's avatar again. Also once again Aaron makes Thor useless without a hammer.

    - Thor returns the Warlock's Eye to Old Asgard and tells Screwbeard that all the hammers broke (which wasn't depicted clearly at all) and he needs more. Apparently Asgard is almost completely out of Uru and the Bifrost still isn't operational so they are cut off from the rest of the realms (if only Thor remembered the many teleporters he knows). Thor then talks to his dad, who has gone from a misogynistic strawman to a sadsack depressed about Freyja dumping him.

    - Thor goes to the Bronx where the rest of the refugees from Asgardia are living and talks to Jane, who is the one getting tips on Asgardian artifacts sightings for him, before going to see his mom. Freyja asks after Loki and tells Thor not to think too badly of him just because he literally stabbed her in the back (apparently everybody has forgotten about the whole murdering Kid Loki thing since it never comes up and they only ever talk about his crimes against Freyja). Thor gets pissed and goes to get the Gem of Infinite Suns from the Antarctic Sea and fights Namor for a page.

    - Thor now lives on a crappy little boat filled with weapons and old boxes of fried chicken in the Newark Harbor. He finds Loki drinking his last beer and they fight before Loki tells him he's there to help and that he can transport him to the other Realms for a price Loki will tell him later. Before Thor decides to agree or not, Loki starts transporting him anyway but Thor grabs Loki and drags him along. They end up in Hel where Balder and Skurge meet them.

    - The back-up story is Old King Thor fighting a Space Shark before going to visit Lady Jane of New Midgard as she dies and he tells her there is no afterlife anymore. Then he finds out the universe is dying and travels to the furthest corners of it before getting blasted by somebody. Who? Old Wolverine wielding the Phoenix Force, asking if he brought beer. (Because that's just what any Aaron story needs, more Wolverine wank.)

    This issue was filled with dumb, out-of-place humor, ignorance of continuity and just plain bad writing. And the art is terrible in my opinion.

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    Wow, unsurprisingly my reaction was entirely contrary. I will post a synopsis tomorrow. All I will say right now is I had a permanent smile on my face from cover to cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKtheMac View Post
    Wow, unsurprisingly my reaction was entirely contrary. I will post a synopsis tomorrow. All I will say right now is I had a permanent smile on my face from cover to cover.
    Same here. Looking forward to your write-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKtheMac View Post
    Wow, unsurprisingly my reaction was entirely contrary. I will post a synopsis tomorrow. All I will say right now is I had a permanent smile on my face from cover to cover.
    I totally agree. I loved it. Aaron's run on THOR: GOD OF THUNDER was amazing, and I dug Jane's arc with the hammer. This feels like a modern, slightly jaded-but-optimistic and righteously angry Thor, ready to take on all challengers!

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    I loved it. the final page was admittedly 'WTF?' but other than that, I absolutely adored it. It was fun, it feels like there is forward momentum again, Loki seems to finally be stepping out of the 'playing bad guy' role, it set up some interesting situations, the family drama ranged from sweet to sad, the brother squabble/brawl was great, Del Mundo's art is gorgeous, he is a perfect fit for the book. So yeah, really liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul O'Neal View Post
    I totally agree. I loved it. Aaron's run on THOR: GOD OF THUNDER was amazing, and I dug Jane's arc with the hammer. This feels like a modern, slightly jaded-but-optimistic and righteously angry Thor, ready to take on all challengers!
    I liked it too. Nice to see Thor FINALLY able to accomplish something positive.

    But I don't understand why there is no longer an afterlife. Seems dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    I liked it too. Nice to see Thor FINALLY able to accomplish something positive.

    But I don't understand why there is no longer an afterlife. Seems dumb.
    My first thought was it somehow gets destroyed during the war of the realms.

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    That there is no afterlife could be for any number of reason. It might be destroyed for that reality or that reality might just be cut off from the central afterlife of the universe. It might also be that the humans King Thor created never had souls anyways due to the lack of resouraces he had when creating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Materiel View Post
    My first thought was it somehow gets destroyed during the war of the realms.
    There's more than one type of after life. It doesn't make sense that there isn't any where for a soul to go after death.

    We know death makes towers to house souls, and the Phoenix has the white hot room where dead souls go and other cosmic entity's or hell lords or beings. If Valhalla is destroyed, there are still places the soul can go in the marvel universe

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    I liked it too. Nice to see Thor FINALLY able to accomplish something positive.

    But I don't understand why there is no longer an afterlife. Seems dumb.
    Honestly, I think it's just Aaron's atheism showing.

    As for Kid Loki, his creation and relationship with Thor bother me a bit. Don't get me wrong, I love Kid Loki and cried after Journey into Mystery, but if you think about it, Thor basically created a version of Loki based on his nostalgia, basically creating an idealized version of his brother. I'm not defending Ikol's actions, but Thor creating an idyllic version of Loki, then claiming that version is the brother he deserved and his "true brother" while denying the person who Loki really was while Loki was trying to make amends and be a better person is very twisted.

    I doubt we'll ever see this address in the comics, and don't even know if Aaron is keeping the fact that Thor learned that adult Loki isn't Kid Loki as the main reason for their falling out, but it would be something interesting to see addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    I liked it too. Nice to see Thor FINALLY able to accomplish something positive.

    But I don't understand why there is no longer an afterlife. Seems dumb.
    I can't recall which issue it was, I think it was the issue in which he created Jane and Steve, but a previous look into King Thor showed he was about to receive a message from the Republic of Hel about overcrowding. Something might have happened to it between that point and this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha to Omega View Post
    - So after the preview, Juggernaut insults Thor some more before punching him off the cliff while Thor's internal monologue whines about him being the "worst Thor ever". Thor has Screwbeard (ugh) send him a hammer that he immediately breaks on Juggernaut's helmet. Then he has Screwbeard send all the hammers and uses them to electrocute the cultists and clobbers Juggernaut while yelling about being the "god of #%#%#%# thunder" (ugh) before quickly running away. Notably Aaron completely ignores the fact Cain killed Cyttorak and gained all his powers in Amazing X-Men, and reduces him to just being Cyttorak's avatar again. Also once again Aaron makes Thor useless without a hammer.

    - Thor returns the Warlock's Eye to Old Asgard and tells Screwbeard that all the hammers broke (which wasn't depicted clearly at all) and he needs more. Apparently Asgard is almost completely out of Uru and the Bifrost still isn't operational so they are cut off from the rest of the realms (if only Thor remembered the many teleporters he knows). Thor then talks to his dad, who has gone from a misogynistic strawman to a sadsack depressed about Freyja dumping him.

    - Thor goes to the Bronx where the rest of the refugees from Asgardia are living and talks to Jane, who is the one getting tips on Asgardian artifacts sightings for him, before going to see his mom. Freyja asks after Loki and tells Thor not to think too badly of him just because he literally stabbed her in the back (apparently everybody has forgotten about the whole murdering Kid Loki thing since it never comes up and they only ever talk about his crimes against Freyja). Thor gets pissed and goes to get the Gem of Infinite Suns from the Antarctic Sea and fights Namor for a page.

    - Thor now lives on a crappy little boat filled with weapons and old boxes of fried chicken in the Newark Harbor. He finds Loki drinking his last beer and they fight before Loki tells him he's there to help and that he can transport him to the other Realms for a price Loki will tell him later. Before Thor decides to agree or not, Loki starts transporting him anyway but Thor grabs Loki and drags him along. They end up in Hel where Balder and Skurge meet them.

    - The back-up story is Old King Thor fighting a Space Shark before going to visit Lady Jane of New Midgard as she dies and he tells her there is no afterlife anymore. Then he finds out the universe is dying and travels to the furthest corners of it before getting blasted by somebody. Who? Old Wolverine wielding the Phoenix Force, asking if he brought beer. (Because that's just what any Aaron story needs, more Wolverine wank.)

    This issue was filled with dumb, out-of-place humor, ignorance of continuity and just plain bad writing. And the art is terrible in my opinion.
    I only liked the stuff with Loki and Thor.

    anything else was a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by JKtheMac View Post
    Wow, unsurprisingly my reaction was entirely contrary. I will post a synopsis tomorrow. All I will say right now is I had a permanent smile on my face from cover to cover.
    we didn't expect anything less from you, Mr. Mac

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    The awful parts
    -Thor and everyone going on and on about the hammer
    -"I am the worst Thor ever", "hello bloodshed", it's like Jason Aaron just watched Ragnarok and decided that the personality transplant Thor got there was the best thing ever, so he had to copy it. It reads terribly and doesn't sound like Thor.
    - Cain Marko defeated Cytorakk and isn't interested in serving him or helping him take over the world
    - "maybe they'll give the woman back her job" shut up Aaron, I'm tired of your commentary
    - Thor being so pathetic against juggernaut without his hammer, atleast show him putting up a fight even if you want him to lose, stop portraying him as a stupid joke
    - "the god of ******** thunder" like I said this doesn't sound like Thor, it sounds like Benjamin grim or Guido is fighting
    - so wait, Freyja works so hard to make sure loki becomes the monster of old, then suddenly changes and acts like... Urgh, nevermind
    -Thor living in a trashy boat
    -Huh, there's no afterlife? But Aaron that's been proven wrong. Even if not the Norse afterlife, there are different places in the marvel universe that a should goes after death. Oh well.
    -urgh, wolverine Phoenix. Yuck.

    Great
    -Screw beard is awesome
    -I loved the scene with Thor and Jane talking
    -ros Solomon is back
    -Volstagg is getting bettter
    -loki and Thor reunion is awesome. But I see that Aaron continues to ignore the kid loki saga. Oh well, Freyja is still a hood cause of discord between them.
    -Balder and Freaking skurge (of course, Aaron has to cash in on Ragnarok, watch him write Skurge as an idiot to match the movie version)
    - I found old Thor with the dying woman a good read
    - always a delight to see the ladies of Thunder
    - old thors predicament of the universe dying after he brought earth to life

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    I don't understand where people are saying he is ignoring the Kid Loki stuff. I really don't. I am a massive fan of everything Gillen did with the character, and I am not seeing it being ignored here. On the contrary, Aaron has gone out of his way to reference it on several occasions. I mean, he brought in Thori, for crying out loud. What exactly is he ignoring, there? Is it supposed to be brought up explicitly every time he appears or something? Kid Loki is WHY Thor is so angry with him right now, the Freyja thing was just icing on the cake, he was mad at him before that. It's pretty clear Loki is putting on an act as part of some deep cover/double agent scheme that makes him seem worse than he really is, something Freyja seems to get now that she's cooled down some, but Thor doesn't. There's several things pointing to that in this issue, nevermind the previous issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raye View Post
    I don't understand where people are saying he is ignoring the Kid Loki stuff. I really don't. I mean, he brought in Thori, for crying out loud. What exactly is he ignoring, there? Is it supposed to be brought up explicitly every time he appears or something? It's pretty clear Loki is putting on an act that makes him seem worse than he really is, there's several things pointing to that in this issue, nevermind the previous issues. Kid Loki is WHY Thor is so angry with him right now, the Freyja thing was just icing on the cake, he was mad at him before that.
    When has Aaron ever acknowledged that Thor is angry at Loki for the murder of Kid Loki? Because I don't recall him ever doing so, it's always about the Freyja incident in Aaron's work. He even refused to acknowledge everything that happened between Loki and Freyja in Ewing's run and had them suddenly be working together with little problems until Loki stabbed her to save her.

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