Magneto's Brotherhood -First Member Revealed

[sureshot]

I can see them working together when both have something to gain. But them being written as being in love with each other is pushing it. Though sometimes, it seems Sabretooth is in love with Mystique while she just likes screwing him and finds him entertaining. Either way makes no sense when Sabretooth hates her, and she's double crossed him numerous times. Meanwhile, she has shown repeatedly to find him annoying & repulsive. And given his assault on Destiny' family, she ought to want to kill him -not to mention the times he's beaten or almost killed her.

At least it beats the short lived Brotherhood where they had the Shadow King and Mystique working on the same team. It showed to me at least that no research was done by the writer and simply threw in their favored characters. If I'm not mistaken it took this forum to point out that since the SK killed Destiny there was no way Mystique would ever work with that character. The writer tossed in a half baked " I joined to hurt the X-men but also get back at the SK" sub-plot to cover up his mistake. In the end she gets neither and Psylocke takes out the SK.

[Silver Fang]

At least it beats the short lived Brotherhood where they had the Shadow King and Mystique working on the same team. It showed to me at least that no research was done by the writer and simply threw in their favored characters. If I'm not mistaken it took this forum to point out that since the SK killed Destiny there was no way Mystique would ever work with that character. The writer tossed in a half baked " I joined to hurt the X-men but also get back at the SK" sub-plot to cover up his mistake. In the end she gets neither and Psylocke takes out the SK.

Bad when writers nor editors do their research. But I give him points for trying to fix it, however bad. Nobody has tried to fix the retcon of her & Creed. Marvel acts like they're the Bonnie x Clyde or Chucky x Tiffany on the M.U.

It's clear writers don't know what the Hell to do with Mystique. And they'll pair her up with anybody. Her character is all over the place. And so is Sabretooth now, where he's good or bad depending on the writer's mood. Lol

[stormphoenix]

Nah. Sounds like Dock-en.

Not really. His name is pronounced DAH ken. He's Japanese, and A's make an AH sound in that language.

HAahahaha.....I did not know that. Thanks for that piece of knowledge

[Hush]

Well, i think that you could argue that Daken has some staying power (much as i loathe him), he even got a solo that lasted 24 issues at some point, so he might be deserve another chance before tossing him aside.

I think the character got enough chances along the years. I mean Marvel removed Logan from his own title and gave it to him, they made him a member of the Dark Avengers (so the big Avengers title at the time), he became the main focus of the Wolverine Origins serie, he was part of the Wolverines and one of the protagonist of All New Wolverine.

About his serie, despite the Wolverine name and the healthier market at the time he couldn't sustain a solo for more than 23 issues (and by the end the sales were close to 15.000 by issue so in today market his serie wouldn't have last 12 issues) while X-23 without all the push he got did well on her own and managed to last 21 issues with the last one selling over 20.000 units.

So yeah that's not a great feat, and I'm not talking about all the cameo he got since last year that didn't help the sales of any title he was in.

Other characters are more deserving of a push such as the Academy X Mutants and yet everybody forget about them.

[TheCape]

I think the character got enough chances along the years. I mean Marvel removed Logan from his own title and gave it to him, they made him a member of the Dark Avengers (so the big Avengers title at the time), he became the main focus of the Wolverine Origins serie, he was part of the Wolverines and one of the protagonist of All New Wolverine.

About his serie, despite the Wolverine name and the healthier market at the time he couldn't sustain a solo for more than 23 issues (and by the end the sales were close to 15.000 by issue so in today market his serie wouldn't have last 12 issues) while X-23 without all the push he got did well on her own and managed to last 21 issues with the last one selling over 20.000 units.

So yeah that's not a great feat, and I'm not talking about all the cameo he got since last year that didn't help the sales of any title he was in.

Other characters are more deserving of a push such as the Academy X Mutants and yet everybody forget about them.

Yeah, i think than him stealing Logan focus of his 2 solos didn't make him any favors in my eyes and i agreed i rather have the Academy X kids over Akihiro any day. That being said i think that some writters might find appealing a son of Wolverine that is a bad guy, maybe (and this is a big maybe, not something that i want or prefer) someone can make the concept work, hell maybe Brisson or Soule can, they are way better than D.W.

[donpricetag]

Please just don't call them "Evil". "Mwaahahahaha" stuff stopped working in the 80s. It was dumb when it came back last year under Polaris.

[jmc247]

Please just don't call them "Evil". "Mwaahahahaha" stuff stopped working in the 80s. It was dumb when it came back last year under Polaris.

I have to think they have been writing to a younger demographic for the title. I was surprised when Magneto used the term evil as well.

Polaris has lapsed into good vs evil verbiage as well. I can't say if one goes back in time its entirely out of character for her, but she really hasn't done it since the 1990-2000 time frame.

[Mutant God]

Don't forget Gabby and Raze.

Gabby
Raze
Daken
Jimmy
X-23
Old Man Logan
Wolvie

I would agree that's way too many Wolverine's to the point it seems Marvel has a compulsive addiction. Unless most of this was still under Alonso, and some will get phased out once C.B. really starts making his moves.

To me only 3 of them have a purpose: Wolverine (himself), X-23 (Wolverine version of the Young X-Men who has her own life) and Daken (the Villainous son of Wolverine and friend of Johnny Storm)

[AbnormallyNormal]

To me only 3 of them have a purpose: Wolverine (himself), X-23 (Wolverine version of the Young X-Men who has her own life) and Daken (the Villainous son of Wolverine and friend of Johnny Storm)

^ My sentiment as well

Sabretooth can count as the 4th really. ANd Lady Deathstrike 5th.

[Tycon]

Don't forget Gabby and Raze.

Gabby
Raze
Daken
Jimmy
X-23
Old Man Logan
Wolvie

I would agree that's way too many Wolverine's to the point it seems Marvel has a compulsive addiction. Unless most of this was still under Alonso, and some will get phased out once C.B. really starts making his moves.

Well,

1) Raze is dead.
&
2) Literally all of them function as a family unit except Wolvie. They aren't copies of Wolverine, they are essentially Marvel's BatFamily.

[Silver Fang]

^ My sentiment as well

Sabretooth can count as the 4th really. ANd Lady Deathstrike 5th.

Sabretooth doesn't have Logan DNA. Wouldn't count him as a Wolverine. And Marvel doesn't either given how shitty he's treated. Sabretooth is an example of a redhead stepchild at best. Especially when 4 of said Wolverines have easily kicked his ass.

Deathstrike also seems to be pushing it. Wouldn't count either as Wolverines. Sabretooth would've been one if Claremont stayed on, but that didn't pan out.

[TheCape]

Sabretooth doesn't have Logan DNA. Wouldn't count him as a Wolverine. And Marvel doesn't either given how shitty he's treated. Sabretooth is an example of a redhead stepchild at best. Especially when 4 of said Wolverines have easily kicked his ass.

I headcanon that Creed is Wolverine's grandpa, you can't convince of the contrary .

[Mutant God]

Who could be Magneto's Brotherhood:
Daken (Jimmy)
Havok (Cyclops)
Emma (Jean)
Exodus (Angel)
Toad (Iceman)
Blob (Beast)

[AbnormallyNormal]

Who could be Magneto's Brotherhood:
Daken (Jimmy)
Havok (Cyclops)
Emma (Jean)
Exodus (Angel)
Toad (Iceman)
Blob (Beast)

Havok and Emma won't be part of it that's for sure.

[Fantasy Free Me]

Who could be Magneto's Brotherhood:
Daken (Jimmy)
Havok (Cyclops)
Emma (Jean)
Exodus (Angel)
Toad (Iceman)
Blob (Beast)

He is going after Emma, so pretty sure she won't be in there.