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    Quote Originally Posted by quicksilver View Post
    new article out(spoilers)- https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/07...t-of-the-dead/
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    so the speculation was right, and lockjaw does die. But it's not only lockjaw, triton also dies
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    Daaaaaang!

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    That's a bummer, but at least it shows they're taking the 'Death' in the title seriously. Those are major characters, as far as Inhumans go.

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    If it's not Cyclops or Emma doing the killing I'll pass

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    Lockjaw will come back. He always does, because they know he's about the only Royal Inhuman anybody cares about.
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    Crazy theory none of this is happening but is a simulation made by what were they calling it the extreme intelligence, where the Kree will all die if they try to reclaim the Inhumans yes Inhuman losses happen but all end results are the end of the Kree.

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    So is Maximus also dead? Considering I don't think even an Inhuman can survive with more than half of their body blown off. Also, this makes the Lockjaw comic sort of depressing, since both D-Man & Lockjaw get killed in relatively gruesome ways shortly after their adventure (in-universe time)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ţh€ €жţяą-๏яďɨɲąя¥ Tycon View Post
    So is Maximus also dead? Considering I don't think even an Inhuman can survive with more than half of their body blown off. Also, this makes the Lockjaw comic sort of depressing, since both D-Man & Lockjaw get killed in relatively gruesome ways shortly after their adventure (in-universe time)...
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    I believe Maximus is dead too
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    Also, when did D-Man die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilver View Post
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    I believe Maximus is dead too
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    Also, when did D-Man die?
    venomized event alongside rage

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    The Lockjaw mini only makes sense if it happens after Venomized. Same with Eye-boy showing up in an Old Man Logan arc that definitively takes place after Venomized. Bunn may have intended to kill these characters off, but editorial clearly didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivisector7 View Post
    The Lockjaw mini only makes sense if it happens after Venomized. Same with Eye-boy showing up in an Old Man Logan arc that definitively takes place after Venomized. Bunn may have intended to kill these characters off, but editorial clearly didn't.
    Sigh. We've already got confirmation that Eye Boy is dead per Cullen Bunn AND Ed Brisson's own words. Both comics came out around the same time and the books were under different offices. So the OML arc takes place before Venomized and so does the Lockjaw mini. They are still dead.

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    I believe Maximus is dead too
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    Also, when did D-Man die?
    Yeah, like Noel said, in Venomized. He got assimilated by a Poison.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ţh€ €жţяą-๏яďɨɲąя¥ Tycon View Post
    Sigh. We've already got confirmation that Eye Boy is dead per Cullen Bunn AND Ed Brisson's own words. Both comics came out around the same time and the books were under different offices. So the OML arc takes place before Venomized and so does the Lockjaw mini. They are still dead.


    Their words don’t really matter much if the stories contradict them. If Lockjaw takes place before Venomized, then D-man would have no explanation for how he lost and then regained his powers. If Venomized takes place before Lockjaw, the trauma of being poisoned could have led to his downward spiral and he wouldn’t need to regain his powers.


    Logan has already left the school and lost his eye and hand during Eye-boy’s appearance in OML. He’s still part of the school and fully intact during Venomized. It makes more sense that Eye-boy survived and the OML arc takes place after Venomized. It takes a lot more mental gymnastics and generates more continuity errors to keep them dead than alive.


    Neither Bunn nor Brisson have actually acknowledged the continuity errors. I doubt Brisson even read Venomized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivisector7 View Post
    Their words don’t really matter much if the stories contradict them. If Lockjaw takes place before Venomized, then D-man would have no explanation for how he lost and then regained his powers. If Venomized takes place before Lockjaw, the trauma of being poisoned could have led to his downward spiral and he wouldn’t need to regain his powers.


    Logan has already left the school and lost his eye and hand during Eye-boy’s appearance in OML. He’s still part of the school and fully intact during Venomized. It makes more sense that Eye-boy survived and the OML arc takes place after Venomized. It takes a lot more mental gymnastics and generates more continuity errors to keep them dead than alive.


    Neither Bunn nor Brisson have actually acknowledged the continuity errors. I doubt Brisson even read Venomized.
    No one's saying there aren't continuity errors. But.........this isn't the first time continuity errosr have been present in comics. Liek I've repeated multiple times, there's continutiy errors with Jubilee and her vampiric/mutant status between Phoenix Resurrection and Generation X. Does that magically not make her a mutant anymore? Nope. And I hope you realize how much time and planning goes into comics. Brisson can't just read Venomized and change an entire story arc that's coming out the following week or month.

    He's.......dead. D-Man and Rage are dead. idk what to tell you......continuity errors or not, it's what's happened.

    https://twitter.com/edbrisson/status...31160809865217

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    Quote Originally Posted by ţh€ €жţяą-๏яďɨɲąя¥ Tycon View Post
    No one's saying there aren't continuity errors. But.........this isn't the first time continuity errosr have been present in comics. Liek I've repeated multiple times, there's continutiy errors with Jubilee and her vampiric/mutant status between Phoenix Resurrection and Generation X. Does that magically not make her a mutant anymore? Nope. And I hope you realize how much time and planning goes into comics. Brisson can't just read Venomized and change an entire story arc that's coming out the following week or month.

    He's.......dead. D-Man and Rage are dead. idk what to tell you......continuity errors or not, it's what's happened.

    https://twitter.com/edbrisson/status...31160809865217

    There obviously needs to be more planning and coordination when continuity errors are so common. The X office didn’t even know that Eye-boy was killed until well after Venomized concluded. Magic would be the only way to explain how Eye-boy could show up after his death.


    The problem is Bunn picked an outcome that disregards the other writers when the alternative doesn’t produce those problems. Venomized itself was vague on who survived and their deaths don’t add anything to the story. Everyone’s survival wouldn’t change anything about the plot. So why would you kill them off and wreck other peoples stories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivisector7 View Post
    There obviously needs to be more planning and coordination when continuity errors are so common. The X office didn’t even know that Eye-boy was killed until well after Venomized concluded. Magic would be the only way to explain how Eye-boy could show up after his death.


    The problem is Bunn picked an outcome that disregards the other writers when the alternative doesn’t produce those problems. Venomized itself was vague on who survived and their deaths don’t add anything to the story. Everyone’s survival wouldn’t change anything about the plot. So why would you kill them off and wreck other peoples stories?
    What exactly was vague about Venomized? Anyone who was Poisoned and didn't have a way out (like Jane and Jeen) were dead. Gone. And the ppl he picked werent exactly doing anything important. Rage was braindead, D-Man was basically back in retirement, and Eye Boy was gonna just be reduced to background cameos anyway. What stories were being "wrecked" as a result of this?

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