The crimes they did might not be connected to Emma, but its still crimes lol. Why does it have to be connected? Again, I agree that Briar is not a reliable source, but that's the only one we have.
Magneto saved many persons during Emma alliance to Bastion and co. We can point out ''good'' and ''bad'' actions for both Emma and Magneto all day. I'm done.
I don´t think Magneto´s attack on the Hellfire Club was right and it isn´t threated this way inside the story, but given those are still the HFC main quarters, full of trained assassins, i would not say, based on experience, they were innocent, but still, they didn´t deserve to die, neither did those rich people who are too into S&M.
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"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
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The goons maybe were assasins etc but the party goers were just coshplaying, drinking expensive champagne and having some kinky sex.. plus the servants, staff, employees that just happen to work there... and then a maniac gets and kill them all because he gets stupidly obssesed and crazy... nah. it is not just evil, it is silly.. by far the weakest past of the story
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Agreed. Emma saw firsthand what Mothervine did to Shaw, but still did nothing to stop it from being exposed to the world. Mothervine had already been released globally when she did her switch, and while her freeing Lorna's team lead to the downfall of the cabal, it did nothing to help those who had been exposed to Mothervine. Whatever her reasoning for her actions, she knew what was being planned, and did nothing to try to prevent the mass exposure.
I know is silly, that´s why I think this storyline doesn´t make much sense given the recent mothervine arc, Magneto was just there to stop Sebastian Shaw, he stopped him without killing him and left without any more violence, how´s that now he´s so violent without Emma being there?. It just doesn´t make sense.
"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
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Ugh, I can't get over how bad the 05 are. Jean is always so pious and condescending, Scott is always so self righteous and eager to act on his preconceived notions. Rereading their dialogue makes me cringe.
We don't know the full case and his descent into darkness is still happening. But to say "they are always hinting at Magneto going dark just because" isn't the case. This isn't just Kitty or Rachel incessantly screaming at the O5 to watch their backs, this has been a consistent plot point in all of Bunn's work involving Magneto. That it was never a matter of "if" but "when" in relation to Magneto's eventual heel turn.
Even in Blue, the same purpose and message were clear between the O5 and Magneto. They'd be there to keep Erik in check. When they left to rescue the Starjammers, they left Erik to his own devices and that led to what's happening now. As well as extrapolating on that encounter from issue two.
How exactly is he an unstable menace? He's cold and calculating in this issue, taking (what he sees as) measured responses against an enemy he's trying to hunt down and kill. He just hired Daken two issues ago to kill the Poison Jimmy Hudson.
There was Magneto's redemption in UXM 200 when Prof X asked him to become the head of the school. If I remember correctly, a lot of issues after UXM 200, Magneto goes back to being a full villain after something bad happened. Then, he said that he tried being good and couldn't continue. It was also kind of a drastic change.
Edit: I remember, it was during the arc in the Savage Land when he fought Zaladane (UXM 275).
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