So, lets talk Bruno Mars, Culture Vulture or nah?

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

Found a interesting video discussing this?




My response is; Black people need to support better artists, and we have *A LOT*. But we're too far up Rihanna, and Beyonce's ass, along with those terrible mumble rappers, that aren't even really rappers. Jazmine Sullivan should be HUGE, along with Janelle Monae. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that black people doing authentic R&B and Hip-Hop in it's purest form is seen as "old hat", or "typical". But it's unique when a none black person does it, face it if Adele was black she wouldn't have sold anywhere near the albums she did. I also think that people will tolerate white artists doing black music as long as they don't become too successful, and garner all of the media attention. kinda like Eminem, who has the media drooling over him. Which to be fair made him uncomfortable. Non black POC are in the same boat when they do black music, it's seen as unique. So it's no surprise that Bruno got as huge as he has, mostly by white fans. It's the only part of the video i kinda push back on. I know black people defend Bruno, but are they the main ones buying his music though?

[Emperor-of-Dragons]

The thing is, Eminem, Adele, Maklamore and others, aren't really to blame, it's kinda bigger then them. I do think they take full advantage of their privilege though. Hell Eminem, even acknowledge it publicly so there's that. White people have always tried to repackage black culture in a white, or racially ambiguous package. On the other hand, I'm kinda iffy about who and what is "cultural appropriating", since people aren't on the same page with the definition or who fits the term. I do think Miley Cyrus is good example though.

And i have heard of this YouTuber, she has some....interesting perspectives. lol

[ed2962]

Yeah, I don't think Bruno is the villain. It's more the subtle racism in the entertainment industry and society as a whole.

[CliffHanger2]

Eh I think Bruno would get called the N-word if he was in a line up so no. He doesn't exactly come off as non-black to me and he always gives props to the black people and culture that he came up under.

[skyvolt2000]

Question who propped up Beyonce and that group up in the FIRST place?

Who rushed to put Rhianna in movies?

Who put Savage Black in GQ magazine for photo shoots?

Who makes sure those rappers who you need Lt Uhara to translate what they say get air time on the radio?

Who are the MAIN buyers of rap music?

Who is in charge of what gets shipped to your stores?

Who makes sure those horrible rappers have enough crap to put out nonstop mixtapes? Soulja Boy got more mixtapes than actual albums.

Who makes sure these guys get to be on tv shows? Looking at YOU VH1.

Who makes sure you see these guys? Looking at YOU Lil Twist. No album but always around Justin Beiber and getting gigs on Disney Channel.

When you figure it out-you know who it is.

Jazmine Sullivan should be HUGE, along with Janelle Monae.

How many stores sell their music?

When Childish Gambino put out his second CD-it was around Black Friday-it was not until Spring Break before I saw a copy in a store.

He's not the only one-Mack Wilds, SWV, Prince, 112 and so many others who KNOW how to sing or rap-never saw their stuff in stores. Yet Niki and friends were there in BULK.

It's SAD I hear BETTER music on NBA 2K games than on certain radio stations. And it's pretty much all the folks with talent on those soundtracks.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

And i have heard of this YouTuber, she has some....interesting perspectives. lol

Chrissie can be divisive sometimes when it comes to topics about colorism and erasure of dark-skinned black women. Sometimes i agree, other times i have to jump off the bandwagon with how she talk about light-skin black women such as my self.

Yeah, I don't think Bruno is the villain. It's more the subtle racism in the entertainment industry and society as a whole.

My opinion is pretty much the same. It's kind of a racial quagmire, You want to do Rap/R&B but you have to be careful not to step on toes.

Eh I think Bruno would get called the N-word if he was in a line up so no. He doesn't exactly come off as non-black to me and he always gives props to the black people and culture that he came up under.

People have definitely made the argument that he is still seen as a "other" by most white people. Interestingly enough, this is why the one drop rule survives, much to the chagrin of dark skin black women.

When Childish Gambino put out his second CD-it was around Black Friday-it was not until Spring Break before I saw a copy in a store.

He's not the only one-Mack Wilds, SWV, Prince, 112 and so many others who KNOW how to sing or rap-never saw their stuff in stores. Yet Niki and friends were there in BULK.

It's SAD I hear BETTER music on NBA 2K games than on certain radio stations. And it's pretty much all the folks with talent on those soundtracks.

The fact that Eminem can still get huge promotions and record sells over black peers with the same skill set is very telling in my opinion. It's REAL easy to prop up Em against a bunch of black dime a dozen no talent mumbling pop-rapers.

[Crazy Diamond]

Found a interesting video discussing this?




My response is; Black people need to support better artists, and we have *A LOT*. But we're too far up Rihanna, and Beyonce's ass, along with those terrible mumble rappers, that aren't even really rappers. Jazmine Sullivan should be HUGE, along with Janelle Monae. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that black people doing authentic R&B and Hip-Hop in it's purest form is seen as "old hat", or "typical". But it's unique when a none black person does it, face it if Adele was black she wouldn't have sold anywhere near the albums she did. I also think that people will tolerate white artists doing black music as long as they don't become too successful, and garner all of the media attention. kinda like Eminem, who has the media drooling over him. Which to be fair made him uncomfortable. Non black POC are in the same boat when they do black music, it's seen as unique. So it's no surprise that Bruno got as huge as he has, mostly by white fans. It's the only part of the video i kinda push back on. I know black people defend Bruno, but are they the main ones buying his music though?

Not liking trends in rap because they don't appeal to you doesn't mean that people who do like artists like that have no taste. I can enjoy Kodak Black, Migos, Rihanna and also like listening to Janelle Monae and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If you're upset about Bruno Mars (he's derivative but he's not the only artist like that) why not just talk up the artists you do like and put your friends, fam, hell complete strangers on to that instead?

Hip-hop evolves with each generation and if it quits doing that it will go the way of rock, jazz, etc. where outside of nostalgists and traditionalists no one really pay attention to it. That would be the death of hip-hop. I mean, I hated snap music in high school for the most part but instead of going "oh ugh" I just kept it moving. I thought Kanye West was overrated and even got shit for that too yet look at him now he's turned into a complete joke. Saw that coming when he copped out (pun intended?) and apologized to George W. Bush when they met face to face like a coward.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

Not liking trends in rap because they don't appeal to you doesn't mean that people who do like artists like that have no taste. I can enjoy Kodak Black, Migos, Rihanna and also like listening to Janelle Monae and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If you're upset about Bruno Mars (he's derivative but he's not the only artist like that) why not just talk up the artists you do like and put your friends, fam, hell complete strangers on to that instead?

Hip-hop evolves with each generation and if it quits doing that it will go the way of rock, jazz, etc. where outside of nostalgists and traditionalists no one really pay attention to it. That would be the death of hip-hop. I mean, I hated snap music in high school for the most part but instead of going "oh ugh" I just kept it moving. I thought Kanye West was overrated and even got shit for that too yet look at him now he's turned into a complete joke. Saw that coming when he copped out (pun intended?) and apologized to George W. Bush when they met face to face like a coward.

Actually, i wasn't judging Bruno one way or the other. I was just bringing up the subject that was being discussed in the video.