Who is the top Telepath? the best telepath there is in the X-books?

[Anchorsify]

The omega-level telepaths are: Xavier, Jean Grey, Emma Frost, Shadowking, Cassandra Nova, Quentin Quire and Psylocke.

Though I think it's a bit hard to differentiate 'phoenix Jean Grey' from non-phoenix Jean Grey just because she spent so much of her lifetime being powerboosted by a cosmic force.

But pretty much like others have said, it's up to the writer. t I feel like it's a common trope to try and say a telepath is one of the strongest on the planet to help prop them up. It's kind of like asking who is the strongest hero.. good luck. Their feats are unique to a specific situation (and often driven by an emotional or dramatic context) that it's not really easy or possible to measure such things.

[Havok83]

The omega-level telepaths are: Xavier, Jean Grey, Emma Frost, Shadowking, Cassandra Nova, Quentin Quire and Psylocke.

Though I think it's a bit hard to differentiate 'phoenix Jean Grey' from non-phoenix Jean Grey just because she spent so much of her lifetime being powerboosted by a cosmic force.

But pretty much like others have said, it's up to the writer. t I feel like it's a common trope to try and say a telepath is one of the strongest on the planet to help prop them up. It's kind of like asking who is the strongest hero.. good luck. Their feats are unique to a specific situation (and often driven by an emotional or dramatic context) that it's not really easy or possible to measure such things.

Not really. Jean spent more time without the PF

[STORM1977]

I like Psylocke and Rachel above all but Jean is the top dog.

[Kurolegacy]

Gotta go with Xavier. Jean’s the most powerful psychic all around, but when it comes to telepathy, it’s Xavier.

[LordAllMIghty]

I have a question..."What feat does Jean have that puts her above Xavier?" Also, are we talking adult or kid Jean?

[SonOfPsylocke]

I have a question..."What feat does Jean have that puts her above Xavier?" Also, are we talking adult or kid Jean?

Your first questions answer is the entire New X-Men book.
Your second question does not even warrant a reply and you know it.

[rutog98]

Your first questions answer is the entire New X-Men book.
Your second question does not even warrant a reply and you know it.

The problem is New X-Men Jean was boosted by the Phoenix Force. Without the Phoenix Force, Jean doesn't come anywhere near Xavier, Shadow King, Legion, Exodus, Non-PIS'd Emma, etc. I get that many fans like Jean and all, but there should be some honesty when it comes to her showings. When she is possessed by the Phoenix Force, those feats don't count since she is imbued with the power of a cosmic entity through possession.

Without any external source boosting their powers, the most powerful telepath is probably Legion followed by Shadow King/Xavier. No other telepath comes close to these three, to be honest.

[Havok83]

I have a question..."What feat does Jean have that puts her above Xavier?" Also, are we talking adult or kid Jean?

Xavier definitely has more feats given TP is his only power but Jean is an omega with limitless potential. She has more raw power than him. He has decades of experience over her though. Outside of the original DPS, we've never seen a Jean vs Xavier psychic battle to put this to rest but I think Jean of today would fare quite well

[rutog98]

Xavier definitely has more feats given TP is his only power but Jean is an omega with limitless potential. She has more raw power than him. He has decades of experience over her though. Outside of the original DPS, we've never seen a Jean vs Xavier psychic battle to put this to rest but I think Jean of today would fare quite well

Jean does not have more raw power than Xavier at this point. She has far less than he. Potentially, she may grow to have more, but she is nowhere near that at this point.

That said, we have seen Jean go up against TONS of telepaths weaker than Xavier and get decimated by them. We also saw Onslaught, who had only a portion of Xavier's power at that point, annihilate Jean. This was before he gained the power of X-Man and Franklin, to boot.

Jean was a joke compared to Stryfe. She was constantly humilated everytime Exodus looked at her, she lost to a weakened Onslaught big time, Cassandra Nova beat her as if she were nothing in New X-Men before she got the Phoenix Force, she's nothing compared to Shadow King as he acknowledged (and proved) Xavier is the only telepath strong enough to fight him, etc.

[Havok83]

She didnt have the best showings in the 90s, especially since this was where she first got her TP back after not having it in over 15 years (UXM 100). She was rusty. In Seagle's run, she committed to pushing herself and exploring her potential. Editorial stepped in and she was taken off the books but we can only assume she did just that off panel when her TP was returned to her after she lost it in Psi-War. She had improved considerably by the time she was made an active member again under Claremont. She was able to use her TP to access Cable's TK and use it as her own on a molecular level. Her TP attacks were stated to be strong enough to pierce almost any shield and they affected a person mentally and physically. She separated Cyclops and Apocalypse's minds after they had been merged. She managed to trick Magneto with her TP in Eve of Destruction despite him having his TP resistant helmet on. This was all a part of her upward trajectory in skill and power prior to her evolution into Phoenix in New X-men. She hasnt had any major power displays in Red, but she's already showing interesting uses of her TP which highlight how skilled she now is. Cassandra Nova views her as a threat to the point where she's had to use nannites to go after Jean bc simple TP wont do. Jean of today is in a far better position now than she was in the 90s.

[Saturius]

We can't really count anything Jean did power wise during Revolution. She had Psylocke's power added to her TP.

[rutog98]

She didnt have the best showings in the 90s, especially since this was where she first got her TP back after not having it in over 15 years (UXM 100). She was rusty. In Seagle's run, she committed to pushing herself and exploring her potential. Editorial stepped in and she was taken off the books but we can only assume she did just that off panel when her TP was returned to her after she lost it in Psi-War. She had improved considerably by the time she was made an active member again under Claremont. She was able to use her TP to access Cable's TK and use it as her own on a molecular level. Her TP attacks were stated to be strong enough to pierce almost any shield and they affected a person mentally and physically. She separated Cyclops and Apocalypse's minds after they had been merged. This was all a part of her upward trajectory in skill and power prior to her evolution into Phoenix in New X-men. She hasnt had any major power displays in Red, but she's already showing interesting uses of her TP which highlight how skilled she now is. Cassandra Nova views her as a threat to the point where she's had to use nannites to go after Jean bc simple TP wont do. Jean of today is in a far better position now than she was in the 90s.

1) This excuse does not work. She had her TP powers for at least a decade in the 90s and continued to have them into the 2000s. During the Seagle run, the writer was planning to have the Phoenix Force restored to her, but the editorial stepped in and stopped it.

2) During Claremont's Revolution run, she had Psylocke's TP powers added to her own while Psylocke took her TK powers for herself. So, her TP powers were boosted with the addition of Betsy's psi powers, and still her showings were below other psis like Xavier and Emma. During this time, she boasted that her TP powers were strong enough to break through any mental shield, but that was clearly not the case as we saw the Russian government was able to create psi-blocking tech that stopped her cold in the very same issue this statement was made:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/Bkplx8Vq7U...CTGzTYhh=s1600
^^^ In this scan, it is stated that no psychic shields can withstand the sum focus of her TP powers when focused to its sharpest edge.

Now, let's compare this with Emma's mindblast:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/1dyVMonM0n...uOrqFIqe=s1600

Notice, this was not stated to be Emma's most powerful mindblast either, and look at how much more damage it did than Jean's even when Jean had Betsy's TP added to her own! Not only that, but Jean/Betsy mindblast was the focused sum totality of her TP powers honed to a knife-edge potency in a single attack. Notice how Emma didn't faint from the effort of her much more devastating attack either like Jean did after throwing her mindblast.

Now, in the same issue that stated Jean's psi powers can break through any shield, natural or artificial, we see some artificial psi-blocking tech stop her psi-powers:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/GbR4wFTDT5...UpiTwCpW=s1600

Emma, on the other hand, was able to break through dozens of Dark Beast's artificial psi-blocking tech. Keep in mind that Dark Beast is one of the most brilliant super-minds in the MU and he specializes in genetics and mutations. He's carried years long worth of studies on mutant powers and genetics, but still was unable to create tech strong enough to keep Emma out:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/oZrQKtQWLz...ATCRdueM=s1600
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/DFh-Fz0gVo...oCqzZT6u=s1600

Emma is being shown with a whole lot more raw power than Jean even when Jean has Betsy's TP added to her own.


Now, let's look at Xavier's feats!

X-Men #90: Xavier is on Skrullworld and Galactus is in space on his ship. Xavier projects his astral form from planetside to Galactus who is, again, in space:

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Note in the second scan how it states there are 8 billion skrulls on the planet. Now, after establishing contact with Galactus despite the distance, Xavier channels all of the feelings of every skrull on the planet to Galactus. So, he connects with all 8 billion minds and shows Galactus their collective thoughts and feelings:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/ci8FWW2fHyG...wOVFSn6A=s1600

Then we have the X-Men #78 where Shadow King mind controls 5 billion minds on Earth and he states that Xavier was his only threat:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/hQigr8g9Ibt...qXiY7PpB=s1600

This indicates that Xavier is in the same powerclass as Shadow King and could likely do the same thing.

Then we have the Xavier vs. Dark Phoenix fight where he battles DP on all the infinite planes of existence at the same time in Uncanny X-Men #136:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/aeyTNlfAxI5...1O8sGjVM=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/qoUhcIMZFw-...UBG88Syu=s1600

Jean does not compare with Xavier or Shadow King. Without the Phoenix Force, she doesn't come anywhere near these people.

[rutog98]

We can't really count anything Jean did power wise during Revolution. She had Psylocke's power added to her TP.

This is true, but even while she had Betsy's power added to her own, her showings were still weaker than Emma's, and she was still nothing compared to Xavier's and Shadow King's showings. There is no argument that can be made that a non-Phoenix Force Jean Grey is anywhere near the top of the most powerful telepaths list. Shadow King, Xavier, Stryfe, X-Man, Emma Frost, Exodus, and others have showings that put them well above her power levels.

[Havok83]

Oh yeah, Im definitely not doing this with you

We can't really count anything Jean did power wise during Revolution. She had Psylocke's power added to her TP.

She got the power, but not the skill. Regardless its still Jean's TP. Does anything Psylocke do with TK get discredited bc it wasnt hers initially?

[rutog98]

Oh yeah, Im definitely not doing this with you



She got the power, but not the skill. Regardless its still Jean's TP. Does anything Psylocke do with TK get discredited bc it wasnt hers initially?

Jean's TP was boosted by an external source of power, so it was not her own natural TP levels in Revolution. And yet, even with the Psylocke boost, she was still below some of the other psis on this list.