Yes
No
Partly to blame
Last edited by Vegan Daddy; 07-15-2018 at 06:59 AM.
Well there is always What If stories. What if 106. He was executed by Marrow in the end for his role in the mutant massacre, Ironically to x-men fans here, in that alternate reality, the X-men did blame him. He was exiled from the team only to be killed by marrow who felt exile was not enough punishment. He died in Rogue's arms.
If Gambit hadn't gone to Sinister, though, he could potentially have destroyed the whole planet. That's not hyperbole, given what we know of the New Sun.
I absolutely think that he has some responsibility for leading the Marauders into the tunnels, but I don't think he has the same level of responsibility as Sinister and the Marauders. He didn't plan it; he didn't kill anyone himself (again, he saved someone); and Sinister would have done it anyway. On the scale of terrible things X-Men have done, it's not that high.
Partly to blame. Definitely not to the extent of how the books played it out to be. Did he know that Sinister was up to no good and that there would be bad thing stemming from leading his group to the specified location? yes, but he also probably realized that if not him Sinister would find someone else to do it. And the reasons he helped were not because of the resulting action but the help that Sinister would give him in return, to block an even larger tragedy. So he knew it was wrong but also knew that not doing so would potentially result in an even worse outcome later. That's where I deviate from the blame placed on him, at least as far as how much the comics went.
Where I do put some blame is that with his connections, he could have alerted someone that might have been able to prevent the massacre. I don't mean human authorities, who if they didn't arrest him for past crimes (thieves guild) would have no chance of going against the Marauders, I mean people who could possibly help to relocate the Morlocks, or even potentially people who could have alerted the X-Men and they could have been present before. Or, hell, even just going to the Morlocks themselves and giving them warning, probably the easiest and straightforward solution. Not to say that doing any of these would definitely prevented the massacre, just saying that he could have tried. Also hiding the fact of his involvement for years from the X-Men. Once the X-Men showed up to help the Morlocks why didn't he help. I know the real life reason is he hadn't been created yet, duh, but I'm talking actual storyline retcontinuity. (Hah, I made up a word lol). Surely at that point in the story would have been an ideal place to lend a hand.
So yeah, I partly blame him, but I think the majority of how I feel about it definitely skews to absolving him of blame, and leaving just a small amount of responsibility there. I kind of feel the books went overboard with laying the blame. But how much of it was really from the fact he covered his involvement up versus he actual involvement? Sometimes the lies hurt worse than the action itself. Marrow and Angel I can understand why they personally were angry at him for his actions, given what they personally lost there, but the rest of them I guess it's more the hiding the fact versus the action. Still what was he going to do? At some random point after he joins and learns about the Massacre, go "Hey, guys just so you know, that massacre that happened a couple of years ago? Yeah, I kind of caused that." Don't think so.
Last edited by Captain Nash; 07-15-2018 at 07:03 AM.
Not at all!
Because I still haven't read the story where this was revealed and really don't know the details!
Uhh.. because he was bleeding to death? Before the X-Men came he engaged the Marauders by himself. Sabretooth nearly disemboweled him for it. All he could do was escape with Marrow. He fought and retreated before any of the X-Men had arrived.
Uncanny X-Men #350 and Gambit Origins... or just scroll up. Most of the information has been posted.
Last edited by donpricetag; 07-15-2018 at 07:35 AM.
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Yeah, Gambit should have suspected that the Marauders had evil intentions and warned people, but it's not that surprising he didn't. He's always had an adversarial relationship with the authorities, and Sinister had framed it as his final job. In other words, he did it, and he got out.
He also genuinely may not have believed that Sinister wanted to massacre people. Sinister's evil, but his major reputation outside of the massacre is not as a mass murderer. He's more likely to clone people than to kill them. Gambit may have thought he had sent the team in to extract genetic material, and had anticipated some resistance from the Morlocks. That would fit Sinister's MO better. It would be a reasonable assumption. Remy seems shocked when Sabertooth randomly kills a Morlock, and he immediately turns on them.
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He didn't help, because he was seriously wounded after he attacked the Marauders. Sabertooth grabbed him and tried to gut him. I doubt he was capable of helping by the point the X-Men came.
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(Thought it would be helpful to include the relevant pages)
Last edited by DearMachine; 07-15-2018 at 07:29 AM.
I totally forgot that Gambit was wounded by Sabretooth in the attack. Yeah, that would definitely have prevented him from helping out. it's been a while since I've read #350. Thanks for jogging my memory ya'll!