Children of Magneto, mutants from birth
High Evolutionarys Experiments
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
So what you mean is that Krakoa as a nation feels like a cult because they don't have enough dissenters? That's a bit silly you have to admit.
And how can you really compare having blue eyes to being a mutant in the MU? It's not like the mutants banded together for no reason other than the fact that they're all mutants.
They don't have many friends outside Krakoa, am I wrong? Friends, connections or relationships…
Genosha was very isolated, too…
They banded together because they are mutants. Because they have the X-gene. They don't take in people in need, people who have suffered like them for other reasons than being a mutant.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
You say "they" as if all mutants speak in one. Who knows how many friends any Krakoan has out side of their homeland? Could be one could be five could be zero. That doesn't really seem that important.
They banded together because they were being exterminated with extreme predjudice globally like six months prior to Krokoa. Every single mutant was a person in need.
You don't question a breast cancer rally for not catering to lung cancer victims...
All this just reminds me that "Magneto: Dark Seduction" was a big missed opportunity. The Busiek Avengers run had made Wanda more prominent than she had been probably since the '70s, Pietro had also just come off his most prominent era (in Age of Apocalypse and then his own ongoing, even if it failed). The infamous "he's NOT my father!" scene in Avengers" #25 seemed to be setting up a big crossover between the Avengers and the X-Men and Magneto's Genoshan nation, but all we got was a very disappointing four-issue limited series.
(Fabian Nicieza and Roger Cruz were capable of better work than they did there, but it's hard to blame anyone but X-Men editorial for the poor state of X-books in that period; everyone was doing way below their best work.)
Neither Wanda nor Pietro have really been a stable (in every sense of the word) member of the Avengers since Avengers Disassembled, so even before the retcon we never really got to see an X-Men crossover that really played up both their status as Magneto's children and their (especially Wanda's) status as prominent Avengers. We didn't get it in Bloodties either; the closest we ever got was that one issue Avengers issue Mark Waid wrote during the Onslaught crossover, about Magneto/Joseph triggering Wanda's PTSD from her time in the Brotherhood (and even that barely even mentioned that he was their father, probably because Waid didn't like that retcon).
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Well, if you actually followed Gilleon's redefined Sinister, you'd know they're a legion of conflicting ideas in a constant state of evolution. They already had their genetic debate/civil war, mutation won out, all Sinisters are mutants, and Krakoa is for mutants.
"A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.
Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.
No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.
(You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)
You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.
Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."
I completely agree with this well said I would just argue that Magneto isn´t really interested in forcing Pietro to rule the world unless he´s in one of his insane phases from the 90´s, In his right mind he just seems to like to spend some time with him as father and Son but he´s very bad at actually saying this, especially since he´s perfectly aware he doesn´t have much leg to stand after HoM. His last attempt trying to act with the twins as a normal family was to invite Pietro and Wanda to the south of france but this was right after the drama of Children crusade so it wasn´t to be and then of course Axis just made everything much more complicated. Given his own good experiences with his father I am sure Max would really like to have something like that with any or all of his children but at this point after everything it´s just wishful thinking on his part with the exception of Lorna of course, they went to eat ice cream so that´s something.
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"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
Magneto: The master of magnetism Appreciation 2022
Polaris: The Mistress of Magnetism Appreciation 2022
House of M Appreciation 2022
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
I'm not sure how Gillen's Sinister Hive proves that. As shown, the hive mind transformation was achieved through the experimentation on a Phalanx subject, an alien. No additional powers were added beyond that and he directly exploited a vast gallery of mutant clones. His ambitions, as he told the Extinction Team, went beyond finding a perfect mutant and instead, a perfect Sinister, hence his tempting with Celestials and Phoenix Force which shows his ambitions have evolved more than anything else. Evolution in itself isn't what makes mutant a mutant. It's the X-gene. From what we know Sinister is an artificial mutant since he somehow integrated Courier's DNA.
South of France?
Seriously?
A place populated by people Magneto would happily beat to a pulp is where he would have a family get together.
Isn't Magneto supposed to be a revolutionary? South of France is the land of the rich and corrupt and tax dodgers. Same with the Royal motif of House of M; many of the nation's with monarchies persecute mutants and to a man like Magneto monarchies would embody the ruling elite who crush minorities.
Why would he become the embodiment of ruling class entitlement, the very thing he seeks to destroy?
But of course monarchy is all about inheritance of power...its the virility theme yet again, isn't it?