Children of Magneto, yes or no ?

[Zelena]

Wanda is the Rachel Dolezol of mutants so NO! Kill her with fire

And you would say that Wanda is hated based on rational facts…

[Beaubier]

Wanda’s actions unintentionally killed mutants and caused suffering, yes. Then you have people sitting in the council who intentionally caused death and suffering, and were in their right mind when they did it (unlikeable wanda who again, was insane)sooo.. like I said, at this point I can’t take canonical vilification of Wanda over Decimation seriously anymore.

If you dislike or hate Wanda for it that’s your prerogative. Characters I liked died and suffered because of Decimation too. But personally like I said, I think the time has passed that she needs to be actively vilified for it in the comics.

[Michael Watkins]

Wanda’s actions unintentionally killed mutants and caused suffering, yes. Then you have people sitting in the council who intentionally caused death and suffering, and were in their right mind when they did it (unlikeable wanda who again, was insane)

not legally insane. she knew that what she was doing was wrong. she hid herself. she said 'no more mutants' to hurt Magneto. and when called out on it, she told Rogue that she wasn't sorry. this isn't James Braddock sitting around in his underwear absent mindedly warping reality. Wanda was a grown ass woman abusing her magic. she's at least guilty of manslaughter. the only member of the council who really approaches that level of indifference is Sinister. and we haven't been told why he is around anyways. he's not a mutant. he's lurking around children. he's a creeper.

[hulkling]

not legally insane. she knew that what she was doing was wrong. she hid herself. she said 'no more mutants' to hurt Magneto. and when called out on it, she told Rogue that she wasn't sorry. this isn't James Braddock sitting around in his underwear absent mindedly warping reality. Wanda was a grown ass woman abusing her magic. she's at least guilty of manslaughter. the only member of the council who really approaches that level of indifference is Sinister. and we haven't been told why he is around anyways. he's not a mutant. he's lurking around children. he's a creeper.

He is a mutant . He is has an X-gene so he is a mutant. That is why the mutant metaphor is so stupid right now. If Red Skull creates a clone mixing his DNA with an X-gene he would be a mutant an protected by mutant laws.

About Wanda, She was out of control especially after Magneto killed Pietro in cold blood. But dont you dare to compare her with the drug adict and ensalver of James

[Beaubier]

not legally insane. she knew that what she was doing was wrong. she hid herself. she said 'no more mutants' to hurt Magneto. and when called out on it, she told Rogue that she wasn't sorry. this isn't James Braddock sitting around in his underwear absent mindedly warping reality. Wanda was a grown ass woman abusing her magic. she's at least guilty of manslaughter. the only member of the council who really approaches that level of indifference is Sinister. and we haven't been told why he is around anyways. he's not a mutant. he's lurking around children. he's a creeper.

They’ve made a huge point to reiterate and emphasize that Wanda was mentally ill and not in her right mind both in the HoM story itself and subsequent stories after. The actual story itself does not support the claim that what she did was a calculated move. It was an emotional lash out at her father without her thinking about the consequences.

And again, her conversation with Rogue can be interpreted as her snapping at her because she’s tired of being browbeaten about it. She has expressed remorse in other stories and one writer making her sound callous doesn’t invalidate her other stories where she has said otherwise. Wanda has generally not been written as an unrepentant genocidal maniac for the majority of her stories.

[hulkling]

They’ve made a huge point to reiterate and emphasize that Wanda was mentally ill and not in her right mind both in the HoM story itself and subsequent stories after. The actual story itself does not support the claim that what she did was a calculated move. It was an emotional lash out at her father without her thinking about the consequences.

And again, her conversation with Rogue can be interpreted as her snapping at her because she’s tired of being browbeaten about it. She has expressed remorse in other stories and one writer making her sound callous doesn’t invalidate her other stories where she has said otherwise. Wanda has generally not been written as an unrepentant genocidal maniac for the majority of her stories.

The conversation was about the fact that she didnt shaw the depowering thing as bad, or not so important. Not the dead that came after that , just the fact that they wouldnt born more mutants or the depowered would stay depowered. She didnt saw the importance of use the phoenix to fix the depowering spell.

Is the same conflict of ideology of the avengers and the X-men all the time. For the avengers powers are just a tool a weapon, for them lose their powers isnt a big deal they would stay doing what they do even without their powers.

For the X-men powers is what give them identity , all they live they have told themselves that they are better that humanity because they have those powers, so if they lose them they lose their identity, they feel empy without their powers.

[PhoenixThanos]

Marvel need to right their wrong, Marvel were acting like spoilt children when they tried to have the Inhumans take the X-Mens place due to Fox having the rights to the X-Men family.
Its why Marvel retconned both Wanda and Pietro.
Wanda and Pietro have been mutants and the children of Magneto longer than most of the current X-Men fans have been around.
Bring back the Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver as the children of Magneto.
Oh the wonderous stories that await.

[Zelena]

They’ve made a huge point to reiterate and emphasize that Wanda was mentally ill and not in her right mind both in the HoM story itself and subsequent stories after.

Actually, Wanda wasn't in her right mind also before HoM (Charles Xavier has been trying to heal her without any success.) She couldn't cope remembering having children and then found out they were just unreal products of her desires.

The conversation was about the fact that she didnt shaw the depowering thing as bad, or not so important. Not the dead that came after that , just the fact that they wouldnt born more mutants or the depowered would stay depowered. She didnt saw the importance of use the phoenix to fix the depowering spell.

Is the same conflict of ideology of the avengers and the X-men all the time. For the avengers powers are just a tool a weapon, for them lose their powers isnt a big deal they would stay doing what they do even without their powers.

For the X-men powers is what give them identity , all they live they have told themselves that they are better that humanity because they have those powers, so if they lose them they lose their identity, they feel empy without their powers.

For people that have destructive and delicate powers, they can't be quite thrilled about them: they know they can do as much good as bad. Wanda's life purpose was to have a loving family and emotional stability. It's a deep human desire and everyone can sympathize with, much more than: "I'm alone, I've been treated like shit but at least I have cool powers."

Well, to be more on-topic:
Wanda is certainly easier to be hated if she is considered as non-mutant: "She is no more one of 'us' ".

[CoCoBandz]

Marvel need to right their wrong, Marvel were acting like spoilt children when they tried to have the Inhumans take the X-Mens place due to Fox having the rights to the X-Men family.
Its why Marvel retconned both Wanda and Pietro.
Wanda and Pietro have been mutants and the children of Magneto longer than most of the current X-Men fans have been around.
Bring back the Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver as the children of Magneto.
Oh the wonderous stories that await.

Wanda got exactly what she wanted though.

To not be a mutant and to not be related to Magneto.

Besides she'd probably just make Krakoa nauseous.

The conversation was about the fact that she didnt shaw the depowering thing as bad, or not so important. Not the dead that came after that , just the fact that they wouldnt born more mutants or the depowered would stay depowered. She didnt saw the importance of use the phoenix to fix the depowering spell.

Is the same conflict of ideology of the avengers and the X-men all the time. For the avengers powers are just a tool a weapon, for them lose their powers isnt a big deal they would stay doing what they do even without their powers.

For the X-men powers is what give them identity , all they live they have told themselves that they are better that humanity because they have those powers, so if they lose them they lose their identity, they feel empy without their powers.

Well that's just completely untrue. What X-Men are you talking about? Maybe Magneto back in his psycho days

[adamTPTK]

Hard no. The poisonous relationship they had and how these two mess ups always blamed him for their miseries got old really fast. Thing is he doesn't need them to be an icon, they only hold him back. Without him, they will probably fade into obscurity which is exactly where they belong with such a laughable characterization.
Look, perfectly, they could be a marvelous family, a tad dysfunctional, sure, but THIS venomous as they classically are? No thanks. Only problem it makes zero sense in continuity, but currently Marvel's continuity is generally senselss so who cares?

[Skullkid]

If anything Magneto holds Wanda and Pietro back, how has being related to him actually benefitted these two?
And honestly they were never a family to begin with he never raised them and has abused them multiple times Wanda and Pietro deserve more than an abusive father who's connection to them has given them nothing good both in and out of universe.

[Relugus]

My belief is that the retcon had two motives, the first was corporate, but the second is largely because Wanda can't credibly interact with the X-Men anymore without it feeling unbelievable. The widely held view is that Pietro's relationship with Magneto is compelling, whereas Wanda's relationship with Magneto is flat.

On that count, we may well see future interaction between Magneto and Quicksilver as their relationship has much stronger roots, and he is viewed much less harshly by mutantkind. Writers can very easily devise scenarios for Mags and Pietro. Lorna has alot more potential as Magneto's daughter than Wanda ever did, due to their more aligned interests, which when combined with Mags obsessive drive, create a potentially interesting dynamic.

Wanda, people forget, is not short of fathers; Django the loving and selfless paternal father, Chthon the evil, cruel mystical father Mags is thus the soggy dull middle between Django and Chthon.

[Zelena]

If anything Magneto holds Wanda and Pietro back, how has being related to him actually benefitted these two?
And honestly they were never a family to begin with he never raised them and has abused them multiple times Wanda and Pietro deserve more than an abusive father who's connection to them has given them nothing good both in and out of universe.

They never were a family, right, but how many people on Earth have dysfunctional families, just being blood-related?
It's plausible so why not?
It is sources of tension that create good stories… the fact that Pietro and Wanda have both connections with the Avengers and the mutants is much more interesting than if they fit into neat boxes…

[Skullkid]

There are dysfunctional families, and then there's this, Wanda and Pietro already had a family and Magneto was never apart of it, he just came in after they were already adults to use and abuse them with the justification that they're blood, honestly even if they were still related Wanda and Pietro shouldn't see him as anything more than a sperm donor they have no real attachments to.

[Michael Watkins]

He is a mutant . He is has an X-gene so he is a mutant. That is why the mutant metaphor is so stupid right now. If Red Skull creates a clone mixing his DNA with an X-gene he would be a mutant an protected by mutant laws.

About Wanda, She was out of control especially after Magneto killed Pietro in cold blood. But dont you dare to compare her with the drug adict and ensalver of James

it wasn't in cold blood. he was as enraged as Wanda was against him; no premeditation. so if you want to damn him, you've also damned Wanda. not sure what an ensalver is.