View Poll Results: How do you prefer the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver background history ?

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  • Children of Magneto, mutants from birth

    335 89.33%
  • High Evolutionarys Experiments

    40 10.67%
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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    Uncanny X-Men #125 Sep 1979
    "There's Something Awful on Muir Island!" First appearance of Mutant X (Proteus)
    On Muir Island, Moira MacTaggert is testing out Jean/Phoenix’s abilities to learn the upper limits of her expanded powers.
    Moira is disturbed at the seemingly limitless amount of energy the Phoenix can generate.
    After correlating some data, Moira hypothesizes that, after saving the universe from the effects of the M'Kraan Crystal,
    Jean had subconsciously created her own mental barriers to keep her powers at a manageable level.
    Now, however, they seem to be returning to their cosmic level and Moira would like to know why.
    Moira’s theorizing prompts Jean to recall the events that transformed her into the Phoenix
    and then the events that brought her to Muir Island following the supposed deaths of the X-Men.

    The X-Men are alive and well, however, and believe that Jean is the one who died as well as the Beast.
    At that same time, they are undertaking a training session in the Danger Room.
    Wolverine attempts to help Colossus but is neutralized while an overconfident Nightcrawler is taken down by a sonic attack.
    After it’s over, Cyclops chews them out for their poor performance until Wolverine loses his temper over “playing games" and storms off.
    Cyclops laments to Storm that he’s uncertain the new X-Men, who still don’t function as a cohesive unit, will ever work as well together as
    the original team did because the disparate members were all brought together as adults rather than as teenagers as the original team were,
    and are each so strong-willed in their own ways that it’s hard for them to truly cooperate.

    In orbit around Earth is Asteroid M, Magneto’s secret hideout. He is still recovering from injuries sustained in his last battle with the X-Men.
    While reviewing his computer records of his previous battles with the original team,
    he accidentally accesses an old data file on his late wife Magda.

    Seeing her face causes him to recall the painful memory of the death of their child at the hands of bigoted peasants,
    as well as how Magda fled from him in fear when he used his powers to avenge their daughter.
    He deletes the file so that he does not have to relive the memories again.

    Meanwhile, the mysterious man named Jason Wyngarde, a mutant himself,
    has been slowly molding the mind of Jean Grey since he first met her.
    He has been stalking her throughout her extended stay in Europe, taking on different guises
    and accessing her mind in order to plant the seeds for his plans to transform her into the Black Queen of the Hellfire Club.

    On Muir Isle, Jean seems to briefly fall into a trance while Jason is thinking of her. Lorna snaps her out of it however

    and Jean uses her powers to instantaneously transform her clothes several times as she pirouettes around the room.

    In Moira's lab, Moira pores over the data and ponders the fact that Jean has been granted powers akin to a god.
    Profoundly disturbed, she wonders where Charles Xavier may be and wishes he would come back.

    Xavier is in the Shi'ar galaxy as Lilandra's consort. While she is attending to matters of the imperial court,
    Xavier who, by Shi’ar standards, is like “the village idiot” checks out holographic
    records of the X-Men’s previous adventures in this galaxy. Xavier had never been fully briefed on the events
    and only just realizes how much power that Jean/Phoenix wielded during the adventure with the M’Kraan Crystal.
    As Moira already has, Xavier realizes that Jean’s new powers are likely far too vast for her to control for long.
    He prepares to return to Earth immediately.

    Back on Muir Island, Moira steps on a gold tooth. Examining it, she becomes alarmed
    and rushes to Mutant X’s containment chamber. She reacts in horror at what she finds there.
    Elsewhere on the island, Jean - using her powers to shield herself from the cold of Muir Isle - passes by Jamie and Alex.
    Upon entering Moira’s research facility, Jean detects an intruder in the vicinity. Changing into her costume,
    she begins searching for the intruder when suddenly she finds herself seemingly transported back in time to the Victorian era for a brief moment.
    She snaps back to reality when someone jumps her from behind. Looking into her
    attacker’s face, she screams in terror. Alex and Madrox hear her and run to investigate.

    Back at the X-Mansion, the Beast drops by to check out the school.
    He’d left sensors in place to alert him of any possible intruders, which have gone off since the X-Men returned.
    He is stunned to find the X-Men whom he’d believed were dead very much alive - and vice versa.
    Explanations are made all around and he informs them that Jean is alive as well and visiting Muir Isle.
    While Cyclops places a call to Muir Isle, Beast departs to check in at Avenger’s Mansion
    and inform them he’ll be traveling with the X-Men to Scotland as well He doesn’t want to miss out on the reunion.

    Lorna answers Scott’s call and tells him there is a security situation going on at the island.
    However, before she can explain further,

    Lorna is attacked by some strange being that has a need for her.
    The last thing Cyclops hears before the line goes dead is Lorna's screams.

    Story by Chris Claremont and John Byrne. Art by John Byrne and Terry Austin.
    Quote Originally Posted by teapartyofthedead View Post
    The first panel is showing Max looking at a picture of a woman named Magda, his wife who is supposed to bear a strong resemblance to Scarlet Witch, while he looks like a more mature Pietro.
    Right on the money regarding the comicbook characters Wanda and Pietro The comicbook character Lorna is also relevant because the comicbook characters Wanda, Pietro and Lorna are (all three of them) the children of the comicbook character Magneto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    Right on the money regarding the comicbook characters Wanda and Pietro The comicbook character Lorna is also relevant because the comicbook characters Wanda, Pietro and Lorna are (all three of them) the children of the comicbook character Magneto.
    Beautiful pages, 616MarvelYear is LeapYear… Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    so am i, a big fat no no
    The big fat no no only applies to that fushia cape with red outfit, ugh, looks like she got dressed in the dark.

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    Honestly I don't care about her being Magneto's kid or not I just don't want her as a mutant

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    I always liked this look for Wanda. Drop the cape or make it red and it would be my third favorite for her.
    I didn't care for it, because it reminded me of that post divorce hair that women get in stories about shedding their old life. Plus I think Wanda just looks better with long hair. The suit itself was appropriate for that era (very 80s), but is too dated now.
    Love is for souls, not bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anyajenkins View Post
    The big fat no no only applies to that fushia cape with red outfit, ugh, looks like she got dressed in the dark.
    and to being in anyway related to mutants

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    Avengers West Coast #56 Mar 1990
    "Darker than Scarlet..." Guest-starring Magneto and Quicksilver.
    The Scarlet Witch has imprisoned Wonder Man, Wasp, USAgent and Agatha Harkness

    and boasts at how she has switched sides, and is now anti-human,
    while her friends are very puzzled as to Wanda‘s sudden change.
    Meanwhile, Hank Pym explains to Human Torch and Ann Raymond what has been
    happening with Tigra and learns that she is missing, which is watched by Immortus.
    The Human Torch and Ann Raymond go in search of Tigra. While searching for Tigra,
    the Human Torch is witness to a government agent bringing the Avengers West Coast an eviction notice!
    Iron Man decides to take a few days off, when the emergency signal goes off and he is called back to Palos Verde.
    Hank also received the signal which leads him to Wanda’s cottage.
    En route, he recalls a recent meeting he had with her, in which he tried to examine her powers,
    learning that her powers have grown at an incredible rate so that she can now do things with a retroactive affect.
    Before Hank can reveal his presence, Magneto appears.
    Hank makes his entrance and holds Wanda at arms,

    only for Quicksilver to come to his sisters rescue,

    making it a family reunion unlike no other, while the rest of the heroes still remain helpless.

    Story by John Byrne. Art by John Byrne and Paul Ryan.
    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    I always liked this look for Wanda. Drop the cape or make it red and it would be my third favorite for her.
    To me, the cape looks terrific and that the colour isn't red is to me also great What are your first and second favorite looks for the comicbook character Wanda?

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    Avengers West Coast #57 Apr 1990
    "Family Reunion!" Guest-starring Magneto and Quicksilver.
    The Human Torch’s emergency signal goes off, forcing him to leave the man with the eviction notice
    and fly to Wanda’s cottage, where Wanda has been convinced not to kill Hank Pym
    - although she tries to kill the Human Torch, only for Quicksilver to stop her.


    Magneto lifts himself, Wanda and Quicksilver out of the West Coast Compound on a slab of rubble,
    destroying Wanda’s cottage in the process, but with Wanda gone, all those imprisoned by her powers
    - USAgent, Wonder Man, Wasp and Agatha Harkness - are now free.

    En route to the Compound, Iron Man comes into contact with the fleeing mutants,
    and tries to fight them, but Wanda ultimately wins.

    The Avengers West debate the best plan of attack at trying to rescue Wanda,
    while Wanda and Quicksilver are shown around Magneto’s Asteroid M.

    Hank Pym, USAgent, Wasp, Wonder Man and the Human Torch venture into space,
    and eventually confront their mutant foes on Asteroid M,

    but after Wanda deactivates the Human Torch, Magneto renders the others incapacitated,
    and using his powers, sends them back to Earth in a remodified Quinjet,
    warning Wanda that her teammates were brave enough to fight him twice, which he respects,
    but that they will not be so foolish as to try and fight him again, for Wanda wanted to kill them….

    Story by John Byrne. Art by John Byrne and Paul Ryan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    I'm perfectly fine with them being related.

    It adds depth to the characters. The family angle was/is probably my favorite part about Magneto's brood.
    Magneto is the Father!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    To me, the cape looks terrific and that the colour isn't red is to me also great What are your first and second favorite looks for the comicbook character Wanda?
    pp

    Her time on Force Works really got me into the character.

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    I hate the gypsy and head gear look
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    Nothing good has come out of the retcon.
    My flag is bacon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Midnight View Post
    Nothing good has come out of the retcon.
    Correct...
    Some of us wait, some of us act.

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    Wandavision inspired a lot of people to go out and buy House of M. Marvel sells that but then turns around and says that there is no House of M. That makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchfan View Post
    Wandavision inspired a lot of people to go out and buy House of M. Marvel sells that but then turns around and says that there is no House of M. That makes no sense.
    Why? WandaVision proved that you don't have to have mutants or Magneto to get people interested in the story of Wanda creating her own reality (I wish that wasn't her definitive story, but it clearly is).

    The selling point of House of M for the majority of people is Wanda, not the House of M.

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    The retcon was an editorial mandate because Disney didn't own the movie rights to X-Men. It was born out of pettiness and I'm Remender felt dirty writing it. It wasn't to benefit the story or fans, in fact, it was in spite of them.

    Marvel really screwed up with the X-Men pre Hickman, it was just a series of petty fights where no one won and the readers lost out the most. Do you care about the Fox/Disney fight of 2015? No? Well tough, because you're going to lose out anyway because the Mouse wants a bigger check rather than a slightly smaller one.

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