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    What's problematic is erasing a character's Jewish heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    What's problematic is erasing a character's Jewish heritage.
    He only got it by retcon in the first place. The MU is not exactly short on Jewish representation. And now he gets another heritage by retcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    What's problematic is erasing a character's Jewish heritage.
    that wasnt erased with this retcon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    that wasnt erased with this retcon
    Somebody keeps suggesting it should be tho, which is SO crass, not to mention insulting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    He only got it by retcon in the first place. The MU is not exactly short on Jewish representation. And now he gets another heritage by retcon.
    Cool, so being Jewish and being Bosnian are interchangeable now.

    And it being a "retcon" is irrelevant. He's been Jewish for almost 40 years right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Cool, so being Jewish and being Bosnian are interchangeable now.

    And it being a "retcon" is irrelevant. He's been Jewish for almost 40 years right now.
    Oh you referring to Magneto? I thought your last post was about the twins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    that wasnt erased with this retcon
    Carabas thinks they should make him a survivor of the Bosnian genocide instead of a Holocaust survivor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    I don't see how being Bosnian would destroy Magneto.

    It is problematic and will always be problematic. 20 years from now they're going to have to Captain America him if they want to keep the WWII connection.

    And he's just the most prominent example of main characters tied to historical events, not by far the only one.
    There is little problem dealing with his age in the comics via de-aging and any number of explanations.

    It’s what Marvel Studios and how they deal with it that will be an issue that will impact what the comics does. There you need a frozen in time or slowed aging explanation which one didn’t in 2000.

    The Holocaust is far too integral a part of Magneto’s character to part with. This isn’t Xavier serving in Korea vs Vietnam... for Magneto the Holocaust is a central part of his pathos that he was forced to help destroy his race.

    How Marvel Studios decides to integrate mutants and what they do with the twins and mutants will impact the Axis retcon related issues as well.
    Last edited by jmc247; 07-19-2018 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Cool, so being Jewish and being Bosnian are interchangeable now.
    I said no such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    I said no such thing.
    You said it would be okay to make him Bosnian instead of Jewish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    There is little problem dealing with his age in the comics via de-aging and any number of explanations.

    It’s what Marvel Studios and how they deal with it that will be an issue that will impact what the comics does. There you need a frozen in time or slowed aging explanation which one didn’t in 2000.

    The Holocaust is far too integral a part of Magneto’s character to part with. This isn’t Xavier serving in Korea vs Vietnam... for Magneto the Holocaust is a central part of his pathos that he was forced to help destroy his race.
    If it was central to him then he wouldn't have had to have it retconned in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    You said it would be okay to make him Bosnian instead of Jewish.
    They do have Jewish people in Bosnia...

    Although in retrospect it would be much more likely he'd be a muslim...

    I don't know. Could be terrible, could make him more relevant than he has been in ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    They do have Jewish people in Bosnia...

    Although in retrospect it would be much more likely he'd be a muslim...

    I don't know. Could be terrible, could make him more relevant than he has been in ages.
    So now the Holocaust isn't relevant anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    If it was central to him then he wouldn't have had to have it retconned in.
    You keep on saying it was retconned like Magneto had an origin beforehand and wasn't a blank slate.
    Last edited by Dum Dum Dugan; 07-19-2018 at 11:09 AM.

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    edit......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    They do have Jewish people in Bosnia...

    Although in retrospect it would be much more likely he'd be a muslim...

    I don't know. Could be terrible, could make him more relevant than he has been in ages.
    Magneto isnt exactly irrelevant. He's headlined two major X-men titles recently and is about to get a third. Not to mention he had a solo prior to that and has been consistently used since he returned to the X-men way back in the San Francisco run

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