Children of Magneto, yes or no ?

[Heroine Addict]

... I'm sorry but, anyone who feels like that has other issues with Magneto being Jewish and a Holocaust survivor, than a concern over his age in the comics.

Right? Time to get real.

[Heroine Addict]

... You keep on saying it was retconned like Magneto had an origin beforehand and wasn't a blank slate.

Exactly! Don't try to muddy the waters, by confusing retcon, with revelation.

[Michael Watkins]

They do have Jewish people in Bosnia...

Although in retrospect it would be much more likely he'd be a muslim...

I don't know. Could be terrible, could make him more relevant than he has been in ages.

It's terrible and really really stupid

[Dum Dum Dugan]

Exactly! Don't try to muddy the waters, by confusing retcon, with revelation.

And even if it was a retcon, who cares? Thor was originally a human named Donald Blake who transformed into a god when he used the hammer. Then they retconned it so he had always been Thor, and "Donald Blake" was just an identity Odin created to teach him humility. That doesn't mean undoing that retcon wouldn't damage the character he's been for decades now.

[Heroine Addict]

And even if it was a retcon, who cares? Thor was originally a human named Donald Blake who transformed into a god when he used the hammer. Then they retconned it so he had always been Thor, and "Donald Blake" was just an identity Odin created to teach him humility. That doesn't mean undoing that retcon wouldn't damage the character he's been for decades now.

REALLY good point, and one that I don't see could be argued, legitimately. Thank you, for broadening perspectives, including my own.

[Carabas]

Magneto isnt exactly irrelevant. He's headlined two major X-men titles recently and is about to get a third. Not to mention he had a solo prior to that and has been consistently used since he returned to the X-men way back in the San Francisco run

Succesful is not the same as relevant.

[Beaubier]

Look, when you start to need to do stuff like that just to make them be at least somewhat workable, you're better off to just scrapping the problematic part and do a big, simplifying retcon.

Simplest solution would be getting rid of Magneto's WWII connection.

No, that’s the most antisemitic solution.

[Havok83]

Succesful is not the same as relevant.

Fortunately Magneto is still relevant. Considering you keep alluding to it, why do you keep implying that he is not?

[Dum Dum Dugan]

Succesful is not the same as relevant.

I'm also curious as to why you would think Magneto being a survivor of the Bosnian genocide would make him more relevant than being a Holocaust survivor.

[Heroine Addict]

Succesful is not the same as relevant.

But it's just as, if not more so, important to business. Besides, relevancy, is subjective. Especially in this case, it seems.

[Rivka]

Succesful is not the same as relevant.

Are you saying Magneto isn't relevant ... what do you mean exactly? The character as a Jewish Holocaust survivor, a survivor of the Nazi regime, is more relevant than ever. In these times, when there is rampant Holocaust denial, growing racism and anti-Semitism and fascism taking hold in our own government, Magneto as a protector of mutant rights and a survivor of the Holocaust is more relevant than ever.

If you're saying that the character isn't relevant in the comics, I don't understand that either. Magneto has never been more popular, as others have said, given his prominence in pop culture, in the films, etc. The word "relevant" doesn't seem particularly apt for analyzing a comic book super hero character in any case. "Successful" does seem to be the more important consideration.

Do you think there are some bigots at Marvel who want to destroy Magneto's history? Do you know this to be the case? I mean, you predicted Magneto getting trashed in X-MEN BLUE. Do you have some inside info from Marvel? You brought up the WWII connection and Magneto's age in this thread so I was wondering.

[King_Thor13]

Wanda & Pietro should absolutely be the children of Magneto. The retcon that they were products of the tampering of the High Evolutionary made redundant dozens of stories and was a real blow to the fans. Severing that linkage was a poor choice on Marvels part, and not only did it impact the twins relationship with their father, but it then impacts their extended families. Lorna is no longer Wanda + Pietro's sister and has no nephews or nieces. Furthermore, Luna, Billy, Tommy are no longer Erik's grandchildren. Together, it's easily one of the more interesting family trees in Marvel canon, and I would prefer it be restored. Hell, I pity Billy ever trying to piece together his family tree. Even worse if he ever adopts a child with Teddy.

I suppose Billy + Tommy aren't mutants either too, which I think sucks. An inherited X-Gene rather than inherited genetic tampering is preferable.

I understand the decision likely came about because of Fox having ownership of the mutants (not that Marvel has directly admitted as such), but there's no other reason why that relationship shouldn't exist. It enriches all characters involved and opens a lot of doors in terms of stories to be told.

I also would love to see Pietro as an X-Man, as I think he has a great dynamic with a number of their members, probably more than the Avengers actually. They're a little more tolerant, and I think their dynamics are a little more natural. Wanda I think should stick with her Avengers roots though, and a further exploration of her magical capabilities (though I'm certainly not ruling out her coming to the aid of the X-Men).

[Heroine Addict]

Some fans must just be 💚-less:

... all 6 of 'em. 8p

[Michael Watkins]

Wanda & Pietro should absolutely be the children of Magneto. The retcon that they were products of the tampering of the High Evolutionary made redundant dozens of stories and was a real blow to the fans.

certainly. but is it realistic for the twins to wind up on Wundagore Mountain without being experimented upon by the High Evolutionary?

[Noek]

Wanda & Pietro should absolutely be the children of Magneto. The retcon that they were products of the tampering of the High Evolutionary made redundant dozens of stories and was a real blow to the fans. Severing that linkage was a poor choice on Marvels part, and not only did it impact the twins relationship with their father, but it then impacts their extended families. Lorna is no longer Wanda + Pietro's sister and has no nephews or nieces. Furthermore, Luna, Billy, Tommy are no longer Erik's grandchildren. Together, it's easily one of the more interesting family trees in Marvel canon, and I would prefer it be restored. Hell, I pity Billy ever trying to piece together his family tree. Even worse if he ever adopts a child with Teddy.

I suppose Billy + Tommy aren't mutants either too, which I think sucks. An inherited X-Gene rather than inherited genetic tampering is preferable.

I understand the decision likely came about because of Fox having ownership of the mutants (not that Marvel has directly admitted as such), but there's no other reason why that relationship shouldn't exist. It enriches all characters involved and opens a lot of doors in terms of stories to be told.

I also would love to see Pietro as an X-Man, as I think he has a great dynamic with a number of their members, probably more than the Avengers actually. They're a little more tolerant, and I think their dynamics are a little more natural. Wanda I think should stick with her Avengers roots though, and a further exploration of her magical capabilities (though I'm certainly not ruling out her coming to the aid of the X-Men).

Well while not blood related I can still see the 3 kids viewing them as a Grandparent and aunt, although what has Lorna's relationship really been all I can tell was War of Kings and
All-New X-factor for Luna, as for Billy and Tommy does she even know they exist? But ya Billy and Tommy could still be Mutants although I kind of view those 2 the same I viewed Wanda and Pietro's Mutant status Wanda/Billy is whatever since people think of them more for Marvel's magic group, but Pietro/Tommy ya they should be Mutants, hell you mention wanting Pietro part of the X-men I say give it to Tommy who has been very absent from comics and let's all face it the Fox Quicksilver is really more like Tommy than Pietro.