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    I don't like this, at ALL, it hurts my 💚 BIGtime!

    Was it Kick that Briar gave to Mags, and he used when the cabal had him back on his heels, during MotherVine? I can't remember for sure, but I think it might've been.

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    Huh this got intense quick.

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    I would be completely shocked if bunn doesn’t have something up his sleeve to explain this rampage.

    His hatred toward Emma isn’t even what is most bizzare to me. It’s hi saying the 05 abadnoned mutants during the mothervine arc. Surely he’s smart enough to guess they went purposefully gone that long.

    We should let this issue play out before judging, imo. There may be an explanation that comes to light. I just don’t see bunn suddenly making his favorite character have a 180 degree change of heart. Unless
    It’s editorially Mandated- which is possible.

    Maybe it’s some side effect of the mutant growth hormone or whatever he took to fight havok and crew. Or maybe something happened when he briefly used the time travel machine.
    Your favorite superhero- the one you visit these forums to talk about. Would they talk to others the way you do on this message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmacaoni View Post
    A mess. Emma not shutting him down already is also a mess.
    Magneto has his helmet on. And Emma also isn't trying to have a metal spear where her heart should be...

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    Really? Because I would think Emma would've just come out of diamond form, take control of the 04 and strategically brought him down before he can finish his speech.

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    The art isn't horrible, but after how good Molina brought it last issue, the difference is jarring.

    I love how melodramatic Magneto is normally, but this is skewing a little too over the top. I wish Bunn had more time to develop this feud between Magneto and Emma, because while I understand why Magneto is doing this, I wish there was more behind his reasoning.
    Last edited by Soulsword323; 07-19-2018 at 02:51 PM.

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    I think it's canon now that Emma has the improved reflexes to switch back to Diamond Form in case of danger, so she should indeed be able to use her TP and switch to DF if needed. BUT, that would be if the helmet wasn't present, with the helmet there is just unnecessary to even be in regular form.

    And I agree with what others said, maybe what Briar gave him is indeed messing with him or something, because Mags looks really cray cray here, not just mad.
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    I’d live five different lives with five different occupations...
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    I’d fall in love with the same person...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nandes View Post
    This art + dialogue combo makes Mags look like an over the top cartoon villain. Mess
    MTE, I've really been enjoying Mags' characterization these last few years but this...ain't it. Red continues to be the only book worth reading, though I have high hopes for the new cast of Astonishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nandes View Post
    This art + dialogue combo makes Mags look like an over the top cartoon villain. Mess
    I feel likes its the smirk on his face thats takes away that serious threaght. He needs to look more angry than deranged which that smirk seems to push him to on the emotional spectrum to. This would be pretty epic if the art imparted a feeling of betrayal and actual rage.

    I almost think Marvel should have a body language specialist on staff for the artists to bounce off.
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    What I'm findin...



    ... is sayin' that it was MGH.

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    Makes sense!! MGH leads to his return to villainy tho? Its like Cortez is back all over again with Briar as Cortez?

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    Marvel wanted him back as a villain. Its like Bunn said "Fine, Ill give you a villain" and just went extreme out of frustration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ţh€ €жţяą-๏яďɨɲąя¥ Tycon View Post
    Magneto has his helmet on. And Emma also isn't trying to have a metal spear where her heart should be...
    He should still be able to shoot her with a bullet and shatter her diamond form just like Esme did.

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    Horrible. A 180-degree difference in Magneto from all the X-MEN comics Bunn wrote before. Is this a joke? We beg Marvel not to make Magneto a cartoon villain, not to destroy this character, not make him a Silver Age idiot again and the new editorial team (Shan/White) and Bunn make Magneto worse than even his worst days in the 1990s? The art makes the dialogue read even more deranged than it should be. How could this be the same writer who created the MAGNETO series? What's Cullen Bunn's problem? And where are the editors?

    Makes me very afraid for Magneto's future.

    I like the idea of Emma quickly, expertly, shutting Magneto down for his own sake. Then I hope we find out his mind has been tampered with, because it's not just the last 4 years, it's the last 14 years of a complex, rational but hard-ass Magneto that's suddenly gone. The whole plot doesn't make any sense. Cullen Bunn couldn't think of a better reason for Magneto to have a meltdown? He couldn't finesse this with any empathy for the character he wrote for so long? This is completely irrational behavior on Magneto's part.

    This is kind of unbelievable to me. Either Cullen Bunn was faking it through all those previous Magneto comics, or he's having some kind of meltdown himself in these last issues of BLUE. Bunn's handling of the character in this preview is inexplicable and irrational. I've never seen a writer do this before, and I've been reading comics for a long time. What the hell set him off?

    Like I said, I lay part of the blame on the editors. Darren Shan, Jordan White, this is a disgraceful treatment of one of your greatest characters, and some of your most loyal fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    He should still be able to shoot her with a bullet and shatter her diamond form just like Esme did.
    Esme used a special diamond bullet IIRC and she shot at Emma's weak spot. I doubt Mags knows about her weak spot and a regular metal bullet probably won't do the trick anyways.
    "I wish I could live life five times over!
    Then I’d be born in five different places,
    and I’d stuff myself with different food from around the world.
    I’d live five different lives with five different occupations...
    and then, for those five times...
    I’d fall in love with the same person...
    "


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