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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    I wonder how they'd explain that today.

    A) Sliding timeline
    B) Captain Nazi has recently broken free from suspended animation
    C) Changing it to being a non-powered Neo-Nazi (this would probably work the best for the movie or a more realistic Earth One GN)
    D) Fawcett characters are brought into the future (like they did when they relaunched a long time ago)
    E) Time spell
    F) Dropping the origin altogether, like it seems they did with the New 52.

    I think B would be the best option.
    Your wishful thinking that Nazis are a thing of the past is adorbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Marvel's been there, too.





    Back in late 1987, when Steve gave up his identity as Captain America (AGAIN!) and John Walker took over that role, Steve later assumed the identity of . . . "THE CAPTAIN".
    (Yeah, not as original as when he became "Nomad" back in the 1970s.)

    When Steve later resumed the role of Captain America, John Walker used his "The Captain" outfit and started calling himself "U.S.Agent".
    Plus there is a major pop star called The Captain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    But, when he did show up again, wasn't Geoff Johns writing him as a character in Justice League?
    Exactly, in Justice League and not in his own ongoing where any of the setups would get addressed.

    That ONE origin story was a lot of setup for plot and character development that has never gone anywhere in 6 years.
    Had we for instance seen a SECOND story about Billy it would probably start to put some perspective on where Johns intended to go.

    Hopefully we'll get that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    What exactly is your definition of a boy scout?
    Someone who's positive and friendly (not stoic or rough with a heart of stone), cheerful, kind, considerate, doesn't kill, etc.

    The closest person I see as a boy scout is Ms.Marvel. She's closer to pre-52 billy than current billy to be honest, though she doesn't possess as harsh of a back history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Your wishful thinking that Nazis are a thing of the past is adorbs.
    When did I ever say Neo-Nazis were a thing of the past?
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    I like that Ordway established C.C. Batson (Billy's father) was what Captain Marvel looked like. There was always this running debate in comics if Cap was a grown-up Billy or something else. I fall on the side of something else. They are similar but not the same. Otherwise, if Billy keeps getting older, then he and Cap should look exactly alike.

    Not only physically, but mentally, Cap should be different. Yes Billy is in the driver's seat--but I always imagine that the six elders are also there in his mind. Sort of like Firestorm--it's not just Ronnie, it's also Stein. So it's not just Billy, it's also Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles and Mercury influencing what the Big Red Cheese does and says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    I like that Ordway established C.C. Batson (Billy's father) was what Captain Marvel looked like. There was always this running debate in comics if Cap was a grown-up Billy or something else. I fall on the side of something else. They are similar but not the same. Otherwise, if Billy keeps getting older, then he and Cap should look exactly alike.

    Not only physically, but mentally, Cap should be different. Yes Billy is in the driver's seat--but I always imagine that the six elders are also there in his mind. Sort of like Firestorm--it's not just Ronnie, it's also Stein. So it's not just Billy, it's also Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles and Mercury influencing what the Big Red Cheese does and says.
    It certainly is interesting (and makes more sense given the Power of Shazam version of the Batsons' deaths), but it is kind of weird having a brother and sister looking like their parents. And with regard to Billy's persona, I've always seen it kind of like you've said. Not really all of the other entities with them, but their qualities becoming part of Billy. It's still Billy. Only wiser, stronger, more unyielding, more powerful, more courageous, and quicker.
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    Annataz syas: Mazahs, Niatpac Levram!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    Annataz syas: Mazahs, Niatpac Levram!
    I would love to see Zatanna SHAZAM! Team-up.


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    For a second there I thought Billy and Z were cross-dressing with each other.

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