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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    I think most people would say they massively screwed up. And you can say it was their mistake to make, but let's not pretend otherwise.
    Maybe, but it's not most peoples money and most peoples money. It's Disneys. Most people aren't in their shoes. It's not most people who have to deal with the press or pay for any of this, it's Disney and if they're cool with the decision then really its a non issue.

    It's not like it's my money paying for Guaridans so if Disney is fine with their call, then I'm not sure anyone else needs to lose any sleep over it, ya know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    I'm pretty sure Disney would agree that they'd be up to a billion dollars finer with Guardians 3.
    GOTG3 is not going to make a billion for Disney.
    The first movies together didn’t make a billion.
    GOTG 1 and 2 together:
    Box office $1.3 billion
    Budget. ~$360million
    Marketing ~$150 million
    Theater cut ~$650 million
    Disney profited ~$440 for both movies together
    That’s not counting any backend deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Maybe, but it's not most peoples money and most peoples money. It's Disneys. Most people aren't in their shoes. It's not most people who have to deal with the press or pay for any of this, it's Disney and if they're cool with the decision then really its a non issue.

    It's not like it's my money paying for Guaridans so if Disney is fine with their call, then I'm not sure anyone else needs to lose any sleep over it, ya know?
    I said it was their mistake to make, didn't I? I haven't lost any sleep over Disney's massive screw ups concerning Guardians 3. But when the emperor has no clothes, I'm going to say the emperor has no clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    I said it was their mistake to make, didn't I? I haven't lost any sleep over Disney's massive screw ups concerning Guardians 3. But when the emperor has no clothes, I'm going to say the emperor has no clothes.
    Sure. All I am saying is just because you consider it a mistake doesn't mean they do. There may be circumstances or consequences you and I are unaware of, and they may be judging the situation by an entirely different set of criteria than us.

    Again, they made the call and they doubled down on it. To them, by whatever stardard they feel like using, it seems like the right call. And in this instance their opinon might be all that REALLY matters since it's their money and their movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Sure. All I am saying is just because you consider it a mistake doesn't mean they do. There may be circumstances or consequences you and I are unaware of, and they may be judging the situation by an entirely different set of criteria than us.

    Again, they made the call and they doubled down on it. To them, by whatever stardard they feel like using, it seems like the right call. And in this instance their opinon might be all that REALLY matters since it's their money and their movie.
    This works the other way too.

    If there weren't people vocally saying Disney made a mistake, do you think WB/DC would have rushed to hire Gunn to do a film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    This works the other way too.

    If there weren't people vocally saying Disney made a mistake, do you think WB/DC would have rushed to hire Gunn to do a film?
    Probably, because quite frankly I think there's merits to the argument that DC is looking to get any marvel scraps it can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Probably, because quite frankly I think there's merits to the argument that DC is looking to get any marvel scraps it can.
    I think your fanboyism is showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    I think your fanboyism is showing.
    Maybe, but I'm not entirely sure what I said still isn't true. If DC can snag any successful marvel director they can, they probably will. you can frankly make the argument the ONLY really successful DCU director has been the one they snagged from marvel (though Whedon proves that formula hardly has a 100% success rate).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Maybe, but I'm not entirely sure what I said still isn't true. If DC can snag any successful marvel director they can, they probably will. you can frankly make the argument the ONLY really successful DCU director has been the one they snagged from marvel (though Whedon proves that formula hardly has a 100% success rate).
    Jenkins didn't actually make a movie for Marvel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Jenkins didn't actually make a movie for Marvel.
    May bad... she was supposed to do Thor, right?

    But we'll see. Again, me arguing that DC wants to snag marvels scraps is purely subjective. Maybe they don't. I do think if nothing else they want a director with a successful track record at super hero movies who quite possibly lure in more fans from their previous marvel work? But maybe I'm wrong and Gunn is the only marvel director they would have any interest in. I know there are a couple I'd snag if I were DC and I could... especially considering their current track record isn't great. But DC still has a few on deck who can perhaps turn things around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    GOTG3 is not going to make a billion for Disney.
    The first movies together didn’t make a billion.
    GOTG 1 and 2 together:
    Box office $1.3 billion
    Budget. ~$360million
    Marketing ~$150 million
    Theater cut ~$650 million
    Disney profited ~$440 for both movies together
    That’s not counting any backend deals.
    I'm pretty sure Disney would agree that they'd be up to a half a billion dollars finer with Guardians 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Jenkins didn't actually make a movie for Marvel.
    She left Thor 2 due to creative differences or something like that.

    Which sucked for Natalie Portman because the only reason she showed up for Thor 2 at all is because Jenkins was directing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    May bad... she was supposed to do Thor, right?

    But we'll see. Again, me arguing that DC wants to snag marvels scraps is purely subjective. Maybe they don't. I do think if nothing else they want a director with a successful track record at super hero movies who quite possibly lure in more fans from their previous marvel work? But maybe I'm wrong and Gunn is the only marvel director they would have any interest in. I know there are a couple I'd snag if I were DC and I could... especially considering their current track record isn't great. But DC still has a few on deck who can perhaps turn things around. We'll see.
    Patty Jenkins was supposed to do Thor: The Dark World, but left the project after less than two months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    She left Thor 2 due to creative differences or something like that.

    Which sucked for Natalie Portman because the only reason she showed up for Thor 2 at all is because Jenkins was directing it.
    Right. My point is Jenkins didn't actually direct a Marvel movie. And Wonder Woman is easily the best of these DC movies since they started their own shared universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    I'm pretty sure Disney would agree that they'd be up to a half a billion dollars finer with Guardians 3.
    Now you started to get it, but you still talking about only a half of billion for two movies.
    GOTG hasn’t make a billion after two movies, Disney won’t miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Now you started to get it, but you still talking about only a half of billion for two movies.
    GOTG hasn’t make a billion after two movies, Disney won’t miss it.
    LOL. This is a really laughable take on the whole thing.

    "Oh, those Guardians movies aren't that big."

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