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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Because they had already fired him. I'm saying they wouldn't have fired him to begin with if they had known what the public reaction would be. They clearly thought this was another Roseanne situation and misjudged the whole thing.
    Not only that, but reversing the firing would have made them look weak. Horn would have been treated as a laughingstock. It really is all about ego and perceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Depending on how one wants to interpret things, to some they may look bad either way. They licked their poison and noved on.
    I'm glad you can at least admit that Disney may have done something wrong. What with you equating it to poison and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    I'm glad you can at least admit that Disney may have done something wrong. What with you equating it to poison and all.
    I didn't say thry necessarily did anything wrong ... I said they were going to look bad no matter what they did on the eyes of some.

    I already said earlier I didn't think there was necessarily any objectively right or wrong choices here ... just choices. Choiced with consequences. They made their call, guaged the reaction, doubled down, and moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    I think they pretty told everyone they are fine firing him when they fired him.
    Let's say they actually deeply regret jumping the gun on firing him, for agrument's sake, can you imagine any kind of scenario where they would actually admit that and told any living soul that they regret doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Let's say they actually deeply regret jumping the gun on firing him, for agrument's sake, can you imagine any kind of scenario where they would actually admit that and told any living soul that they regret doing it?
    If they regret it, they could have simply rehired him. Theoretically speaking, I can imagine them meeting with him and giving him another chance or deciding the backlash didn't make firing him worth it. Obviously that didn't happen, but in my opinion at least it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    If they regret it, they could have simply rehired him. Theoretically speaking, I can imagine them meeting with him and giving him another chance or deciding the backlash didn't make firing him worth it. Obviously that didn't happen, but in my opinion at least it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.
    They could regret it but be following one of the unwritten rules of higher ups. The most wrong thing you can do is admit you were wrong about something and backtrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    "The Guardians movies weren't that big" continues to be the worst take.
    You’re missing the point, nobody is saying GOTG aren’t big. My point is Disney won’t miss Guardians, they got so much stuff to replace it, plus they are getting XMen and F4.
    Disney is also picking up non Marvel franchise like Planet of the Apes, Avater, Kingsman, Ice Aged, Preditor, Alien and ID4.
    Losing GOTG won’t put a dent in Disney’s profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    I didn't say thry necessarily did anything wrong ... I said they were going to look bad no matter what they did on the eyes of some.

    I already said earlier I didn't think there was necessarily any objectively right or wrong choices here ... just choices. Choiced with consequences. They made their call, guaged the reaction, doubled down, and moved on.
    We saw the consequences when WB hired Gunn. Absolutely nothing.

    Great job, Disney.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    You’re missing the point, nobody is saying GOTG aren’t big. My point is Disney won’t miss Guardians, they got so much stuff to replace it, plus they are getting XMen and F4.
    Disney is also picking up non Marvel franchise like Planet of the Apes, Avater, Kingsman, Ice Aged, Preditor, Alien and ID4.
    Losing GOTG won’t put a dent in Disney’s profit.
    This continues to be the worst take.

    Disney is a business. They want money. Guardians 3 was guaranteed hundreds of millions in profits. Now they may not get those profits. Also, a lot of those Fox franchises aren't worth anything near what Guardians was worth.
    Last edited by Kevinroc; 10-12-2018 at 02:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    They could regret it but be following one of the unwritten rules of higher ups. The most wrong thing you can do is admit you were wrong about something and backtrack.
    Exactly. Disney got played left right and centre by Mike Cernovich. Amazing how one man cost Disney hundreds of millions of dollars with the possibility of no GOTG 3 and the Gunn related movies that could have followed. Biggest bitch slap in the entertainment history. What a brilliant and diabolical move by one man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    You’re missing the point, nobody is saying GOTG aren’t big. My point is Disney won’t miss Guardians, they got so much stuff to replace it, plus they are getting XMen and F4.
    Disney is also picking up non Marvel franchise like Planet of the Apes, Avater, Kingsman, Ice Aged, Preditor, Alien and ID4.
    And absolutely none of that is going to replace a movie that was supposed to come out in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    And absolutely none of that is going to replace a movie that was supposed to come out in 2020.
    You must be kidding. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    You must be kidding. LOL
    Do you know how long it actually takes to make a movie? Do you know Disney can't actually even start making a movie until the deal is 100% done?

    You're not going to see MCU X-Men in 2020. That idea is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Do you know how long it actually takes to make a movie? Do you know Disney can't actually even start making a movie until the deal is 100% done?

    You're not going to see MCU X-Men in 2020. That idea is laughable.
    There are already movies being filmed or in pre-production for Fox. These movie will be Disney movies early next years.
    A lot of these movies will be ready for release in 2019 and 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    There are already movies being filmed or in pre-production for Fox. These movie will be Disney movies early next years.
    A lot will be ready for release in 2019 and 2020.

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    So when will Disney officially close down all GOTG attractions at their theme parks?

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