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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    I don’t know exactly what Roseanne Tweeted and I can’t remember who she Tweeted them to. These two details are inconsequential to understanding what’s happening. Knowing these details won’t change my mind in the overall thought that Twitter smear campaigns are not new and are silly.
    The fact that she tweeted something in the present when she was still working for ABC and Gunn's tweets were from a decade ago when he wasn't employed by Disney isn't inconsequential.

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    I’ll say it again
    So, blame Disney, Cernovich and the alt right for Gunn’s firing?
    Everybody that agrees with the firing are Nazis?
    Gunn is blameless and is the actual victim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Nobody on Roseanne's staff defended her. Not one of her co-stars. Not one person on the crew. People actually left the show because of her comments.

    Everyone Gunn worked with on Guardians defended him or expressed sympathy. The main cast all signed an open letter kindly asking Disney to rehire him.

    Do you think this is unimportant?
    I think people have opinions, and I think they are important. I believe Roseanne was in the wrong, and Gunn less so (some of the “jokes” were tasteless).

    But I’m not claiming surprise that Gunn was targeted immediately after Roseanne, either, because I understand why it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    I think people have opinions, and I think they are important. I believe Roseanne was in the wrong, and Gunn less so (some of the “jokes” were tasteless).

    But I’m not claiming surprise that Gunn was targeted immediately after Roseanne, either, because I understand why it happened.
    I'm not arguing that Gunn's comments weren't tasteless edgelord. Because they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    To Catch A Predator was huge in its day. Going to a costume party in "To Catch A Predator" cosplay isn't unheard of.
    True, at the time the theme of that party probably didn't raise any eyebrows because it was simply based on a show that everyone was at least aware of. To him it may have been just another costume party.

    But as I suggested before there's a lot of confirmation bias involved in all of this. For examble, Gunn complaining about the water pressure of his shower by comparing it to a small child urinating is a bit gross. But once seen through the narrative of "James Gunn is a sex pervert obsessed with making paedophilia-jokes", the joke suddenly becomes creepy and further evidence of Gunn's perversion.
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    Okay, guys, enough.

    I've deleted a ton of 'so you admit you...' crap along with other personal nonsense.

    Discuss the topic, not the posters.

    If I have to continue deleting after this, there will be bans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dum Dum Dugan View Post
    Are you going to accuse Marina Sirtis and Nichelle Nichols of being child molesters next?

    They don't attend pedo parties as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    They don't attend pedo parties as far as I know.
    As I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    To Catch A Predator was huge in its day. Going to a costume party in "To Catch A Predator" cosplay isn't unheard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Nobody on Roseanne's staff defended her. Not one of her co-stars. Not one person on the crew. People actually left the show because of her comments.

    Almost every one of the big stars Gunn worked with on Guardians defended him or expressed sympathy. The main cast all signed an open letter kindly asking Disney to rehire him.

    Do you think this is unimportant?
    Another big difference is that Roseanne spat her bile at actual, specific people, which I consider far worse than posting some generic rubbish like Gunn did. Gunn's tweets were "victimless".
    Live true or lie well.

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    Bautista is indeed amazing. More actors should be as outspoken as he is.

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    So, who going to play Drax now?

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    Just to point this out...

    On a fairly regular basis, folks talk these days about how the future will judge their actions.

    The defense for some of this recent stuff that has come out about Gunn seems to hinge on "How dare you suggest this guy should have been at least smart enough to grasp that?"

    That's not much of a defense.

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    I can see it made the front page of CBR and was one of their trending topics.

    https://www.cbr.com/disney-james-gunn-firing-backfired/

    And they do criticize Disney quite severely.

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    There is a lot of straight up garbage in that article.

    Trying to drag Downey into it? That's when you know you are reaching.

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