James Gunn dropped from GOTG 3

[Kirby101]

You are arguing fact with fiction.

How many more knowledgable people need to tell you you are wrong.

[Raiders]

How many more knowledgable people need to tell you you are wrong.

I’m just saying Disney is a multi billion dollars company with or without Gunn, which is fact.
But your counter argument is pure fantasy.

[XPac]

Whedon has yet to do a DC movie that is all his own so can we really say he will be a flop?

He couldn't save Justice League (and arguably made things worse), then outright abandoned Bat Girl. I'm pretty comfortable saying his run at DC was a flop. I think DC was hoping for a savior, but ended up getting a bust.

[Kirby101]

I’m just saying Disney is a multi billion dollars company with or without Gunn, which is fact.
But your counter argument is pure fantasy.

No, it's what happens in Hollywood. But any of the multiple examples I could cite will be disregaeded by you.

[XPac]

You keep saying that but the truth is losing any money is a big deal in Hollywood. Making billions isn't enough, they need to make more and more billions.
And when they fail to meet expectations, there are often consequences.
One failed movie can mean a Studio head their job, even if the company made billions.
Look at how Solo, which made money, but not enough, changed their whole approach to the Star Wars franchise.

Ultimately that's the question here... what are the consequences. Will this change the whole approach Disney and Marvel will have to the MCU, or will they simply move on and continue to have the sucess they've been having. Time will tell.

[Kirby101]

Ultimately that's the question here... what are the consequences. Will this change the whole approach Disney and Marvel will have to the MCU, or will they simply move on and continue to have the sucess they've been having. Time will tell.

Hard to say. They are moving on from the actors who have been playing these characters for a decade. Will the audience embrace the new actors? Who knows. I think the MCU will be different after Avengers IV. There will be hold overs like Black Panther and Spider-Man. But what will a new Ironman or Captain America be like? One thing for sure, they killed a billion dollar property with GOTG for foolish reasons. (And they did it not realizing that firing Gunn would kill the franchise.) If latter Marvel movies don't perform ad well, the absence of GOTG will be felt.

[Raiders]

No, it's what happens in Hollywood. But any of the multiple examples I could cite will be disregaeded by you.

Seems you can’t accept the fact that Disney will be a multi billion dollar company without Gunn. If you think Disney is going to be hurting in any little way for firing Gunn, then you are living on Fantasy Island.

[Kevinroc]

Seems you can’t accept the fact that Disney will be a multi billion dollar company without Gunn. If you think Disney is going to be hurting in any little way for firing Gunn, then you are living on Fantasy Island.

Nobody is saying Disney is going to go under because of their failures with GOTG3. That doesn't mean Disney hasn't screwed up.

[Forseti]

If I burn a couple of hundred euros in a drunken bout of stupidity, I won't particularly suffer for it. But the next morning I'd feel really stupid for burning money.

[Kirby101]

Seems you can’t accept the fact that Disney will be a multi billion dollar company without Gunn. If you think Disney is going to be hurting in any little way for firing Gunn, then you are living on Fantasy Island.

You don't understand the film industry. No one is saying Disney is going under. But giving up a billion do0llaer franchise has repercussions, it will hurt their bottom line. Have you not seen what happened to their Star Wars plans after Solo underperformed. It did not lose money, simply did not make as much as they hopes, and they scuttled a hole group of movies. Do you think corporations sit back and say, "Oh well, as long as we make some money it's all good."?

[XPac]

Hard to say. They are moving on from the actors who have been playing these characters for a decade. Will the audience embrace the new actors? Who knows. I think the MCU will be different after Avengers IV. There will be hold overs like Black Panther and Spider-Man. But what will a new Ironman or Captain America be like? One thing for sure, they killed a billion dollar property with GOTG for foolish reasons. (And they did it not realizing that firing Gunn would kill the franchise.) If latter Marvel movies don't perform ad well, the absence of GOTG will be felt.

I agree the MCU will be a very different place after Avengers 4. And I think the timing of them getting the Fox properties almost makes it all seemed planned. For them to get a boat load of new IP's almost immediately after choosing to drop several is pretty amazing timing. They couldn't have planned that better.

[Kirby101]

Here's the thing, Fox was very expensive, $71 billion, that is a lot of debt to cover. The Fox properties have to perform as well as Marvel and Star Wars for them to come out ahead. Now giving up a known property like GOTG could really hurt their bottom line if the Fox movies don't do well.

[numberthirty]

Nobody is saying Disney is going to go under because of their failures with GOTG3. That doesn't mean Disney hasn't screwed up.

If you are already set for cash and won a bunch on slot machines, how much did you actually screw up if you lost ten or twenty bucks one night?

Even if you want to view it as "Screwed Up...", it doesn't amount to much of anything.

[Kirby101]

If you are already set for cash and won a bunch on slot machines, how much did you actually screw up if you lost ten or twenty bucks one night?

Even if you want to view it as "Screwed Up...", it doesn't amount to much of anything.

So why did Solo's performance change their whole stragedy if a little cash doesn't matter?

Under performing and doing not as well this year than last is a very big deal in Hollywood. They never sit back and just say, well we did make money.

[numberthirty]

So why did Solo's performance change their whole stragedy if a little cash doesn't matter?

Under performing and doing not as well this year than last is a very big deal in Hollywood. They never sit back and just say, well we did make money.

The problem with that way of looking at is that there is no MCU prequel equivalent of Solo: A Star Wars Story we can discuss.

You are pointing to a very singular instance as if it has much of anything to do with the future of the MCU. It really doesn't.