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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Chris Pratt’s support for James Gunn is why Universal is scrapping “Cowboy Ninja Viking”?
    Is that a statement or rubbish you just made up? Allegedly they are postponing it as they want it to be a franchise and they need the time to get it right rather than just getting out for it's release date, in fairness that's something that should happened with Justice League but execs refused to delay it and now it's tainted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Chris Pratt’s support for James Gunn is why Universal is scrapping “Cowboy Ninja Viking”?
    Is that a statement or rubbish you just made up? Allegedly they are postponing it as they want it to be a franchise and they need the time to get it right rather than just getting out for it's release date, in fairness that's something that should happened with Justice League but execs refused to delay it and now it's tainted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jump View Post
    Is that a statement or rubbish you just made up? Allegedly they are postponing it as they want it to be a franchise and they need the time to get it right rather than just getting out for it's release date, in fairness that's something that should happened with Justice League but execs refused to delay it and now it's tainted.
    It wasn’t a statement, it was a question.
    However the rest of your post makes sense.
    This is same thing that is happening to Channing Tatum’s Gambit.

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    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...firing-1133161

    Gunn is in demand after Disney's firing.

    Also...

    Sources say that Gunn, while under contract for the third movie, likely was not "pay or play,” a status that would require Disney to pay him his full fee regardless of whether his services are actually used. Filmmakers typically reach pay-or-play status when a movie is officially greenlit or eight weeks prior to the start of production, neither of which had occurred. But Gunn is not said to have breached his contract because the offensive tweets were sent years before he first signed with Disney’s Marvel Studios.

    Some experienced talent reps estimate that due to the unique situation, Gunn could receive a payout of $7 million to $10 million, if not potentially higher. And, more importantly, he would be free to take on another project immediately. Also affecting the negotiations is that sources say Disney plans on using Gunn's script for the third movie.
    There may be an unexpected twist to the story. Two sources say there is a hope through the talks that Gunn could return in some fashion, even if it’s to develop and direct another Marvel movie. “An end-all verdict hasn’t been issued and conversations with Marvel are still ongoing,” says one source familiar with the proceedings.

    That leaves Gunn and his potential suitors waiting to see the outcome of the talks. “Most people feel his comments were coming out of his brand of comedy [at the time he made them],” says another studio exec. “Having an inappropriate sense of humor shouldn’t be a crime.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...firing-1133161

    Gunn is in demand after Disney's firing.

    Also...
    I wouldn’t surprise me if Gunn becomes director for Cowboy Ninja Viking.

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    This whole situation is incredibly dumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    Sounds like Bautista is trying to piss-off Disney to get him out of his contract.
    He is insulting Disney and he is making it uncomfortable for the next director to work with him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wjowski View Post
    This whole situation is incredibly dumb.



    Careful now, wouldn't want Disney to find out about all those homophobic promos Dwayne did when he worked for the WWF/E.
    Rihanna's music video for "Work" would probably get her banned, too.

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    https://deadline.com/2018/08/james-g...pt-1202443199/

    Marvel Studios trying to get Gunn back.

    It would not be surprising that Marvel Studios’ Kevin Feige would make one last try at rapprochement. Disney’s quick guillotine contrasted dramatically to CBS’s handling of the Les Moonves controversy. Though his problems are self-inflicted, Gunn was banished for an incredibly poor choice of words; Moonves continues to run CBS, pending an investigation into allegations of serious sexual harassment bordering on sexual assault. Anyone at Disney would be hard pressed to say the quick hook has benefited the Guardians franchise. The entire cast unanimously wants Gunn back, even as they acknowledge he was an idiot, at a time he was graduating from the Troma schlock horror factory and attempting to be some kind of satirical provocateur. Gunn remains eminently hire-able and a studio chief told me recently he’s eager to give him a picture once Gunn is free of Disney.

    Disney and Marvel want to move forward quickly with the next Guardians installment, and one of the reasons the Chris Pratt-starrer Cowboy Ninja Viking stalled at Universal this week was because the film was undergoing rewrites too close to start of production — a recipe for problems — and it was clear Pratt was on a tight timeline because he has to suit up to play Starlord. Gunn has written a script and Dave Bautista has gone as far as declaring he won’t want to reprise his Drax character unless Marvel uses Gunn’s version. All of this has created acrimony and destabilized a crowd pleasing franchise that grossed a collective $1.6 billion worldwide, with the sequel earning more than the original.

    In this white-hot moment, there seems to be a new controversy each day for corporate leaders to navigate. It seems clear what is best for a film franchise that will become damaged goods for the next director. Some have posited that the precocious Thor: Ragnarok‘s Taika Waititi as a perfect fit, but what principled filmmaker will feel good about taking over in such circumstances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
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    Marvel Studios trying to get Gunn back.
    If Disney rehires Gunn, then Roseanne must be rehired too.
    Otherwise she may have a discrimination lawsuit based on gender against Disney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    If Disney rehires Gunn, then Roseanne must be rehired too.
    Otherwise she may have a discrimination lawsuit based on gender against Disney.
    Despite Twitter being at the center of both stories, their situations were not remotely similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders View Post
    If Disney rehires Gunn, then Roseanne must be rehired too.
    Otherwise she may have a discrimination lawsuit based on gender against Disney.
    Roseanne Barr’s series was cancelled for social media posts made after her show had just been renewed. Gunn was removed from an upcoming film for social media posts made before he was initially hired by Disney back in 2012.

    I’m not a US lawyer, but I’d be pretty sceptical of a discrimination lawsuit based on that set of facts
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    Gunn wasn't fired from a job. He was not picked up for the third GOTC. Big difference. Unless he had a hard contract with Disney to direct, they can do what they want.
    Rossanne's show was cancelled, which ABC can do anytime they want to any show. Again this is not an employment situation.
    It also isn't a judgement about whether they were right or wrong to do so.
    There might be money owed to either or both, which Disney probably fulfilled.
    But is not like an regular employer-employee relationship.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Gunn wasn't fired from a job. He was not picked up for the third GOTC. Big difference. Unless he had a hard contract with Disney to direct, they can do what they want.
    Rossanne's show was cancelled, which ABC can do anytime they want to any show. Again this is not an employment situation.
    It also isn't a judgement about whether they were right or wrong to do so.
    There might be money owed to either or both, which Disney probably fulfilled.
    But is not like an regular employer-employee relationship.
    Yes, that sounds right.*

    Or maybe not, looking at the other posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Gunn wasn't fired from a job. He was not picked up for the third GOTC. Big difference. Unless he had a hard contract with Disney to direct, they can do what they want.
    Rossanne's show was cancelled, which ABC can do anytime they want to any show. Again this is not an employment situation.
    It also isn't a judgement about whether they were right or wrong to do so.
    There might be money owed to either or both, which Disney probably fulfilled.
    But is not like an regular employer-employee relationship.
    This is incorrect. As this story from The Hollywood Reporter states:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...firing-1133161

    Sources say that Gunn, while under contract for the third movie, likely was not "pay or play,” a status that would require Disney to pay him his full fee regardless of whether his services are actually used. Filmmakers typically reach pay-or-play status when a movie is officially greenlighted or eight weeks prior to the start of production, neither of which had occurred. But Gunn is not said to have breached his contract because the offensive tweets were sent years before he first signed with Disney’s Marvel Studios.

    Some experienced talent reps estimate that due to the unique situation, Gunn could receive a payout of $7 million to $10 million, if not potentially higher. And, more importantly, he would be free to take on another project immediately. Also affecting the negotiations is that Disney plans on using Gunn's script for the third Guardians pic, according to sources.

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