Page 5 of 172 FirstFirst 1234567891555105 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 75 of 2577
  1. #61
    All-New Member Red Walrus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    29

    Default

    I'm sad James Gunn is off the movies. I like James Gunn. I would like to see James Gunn continue to make movies and have a continued career.

    That being said, 'You are exactly where you deserve to be based of your decisions and actions' is something I firmly believe in. His decisions and actions got him into this situation.

    I'm also glad his statement took accountability for those jokes, and he was swift to send out a message that was clear in that.

  2. #62
    Better than YOU! Alan2099's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    3,204

    Default

    I am not saying that he can't be a better person now but in all honesty some of this stuff is so disturbing that you can't ignore it.
    Everybody was doing a good job of ignoring it up until just now.

  3. #63
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,637

    Default

    Thought that myself. Ah well...political correctness 1, common sense 0. Well done Disney, I doubt if I'll bother with future GotG films.

  4. #64
    Incredible Member regg215's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    515

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Everybody was doing a good job of ignoring it up until just now.
    In all honesty I had no idea these comments existed and never would have went to see Guardians had I known about them. The fact that so many people are saying that these comments should be ignored because they were made 10 years ago but then have spent a lot of the last year citing an access hollywood tape from over a decade ago and comments from the 80's from Jeff sessions is a bit hypocritical. For the record I do not currently support either side of the political spectrum and I think all the comments made by all three parties are morally repugnant, insensitive, stupid and unacceptable. I also understand that directing a superhero movie is different than running the country but people deciding to pick and chose arguments with no consistency to back people they support and condemn those they don't bugs me to no end. Also very importantly, not at all saying that you are doing that Alan2099, I think you are one of the better posters on these boards and enjoy the perspective you bring to a lot of the conversations I have seen you participate in on here.
    Favorite Characters

    Mr. Miracle, Big Barda, Batman,Thor(Odinson), James Bond, Darth Vader, Wolverine, Daredevil ,Elektra, Spider-Man, Superman, Green Arrow, Black Canary

  5. #65
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GozertheGozarian View Post
    Jeremy Renner says things almost as bad, and not as jokes, much more recently. There's a serious lack of consistency on Disney's part.
    Some years ago in the UK there was hell to pay on Big Brother when the late Jade Goody was seen racially insulting another 'housemate'. Yet Jermaine Jackson called her mother 'white trash' and not only was there not a word of protest but he was later guest of honour at an anti racist rally. Double standards everywhere.

  6. #66
    Ultimate Member numberthirty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    17,103

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Everybody was doing a good job of ignoring it up until just now.
    Honestly, I would disagree with the assertion that "Everybody" was doing that.

    GLAAD still has the apology up, and I took enough note to remember that they did.

  7. #67
    Ultimate Member numberthirty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    17,103

    Default

    That said, it's worth noting that Batista wasted zero time in going to bat for the guy. That's worth a lot.

    Not worth enough to balance out that the guy said he "doesn't blame" his past self, but worth a lot.

  8. #68
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,867

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by motherofpearl1 View Post
    Some years ago in the UK there was hell to pay on Big Brother when the late Jade Goody was seen racially insulting another 'housemate'. Yet Jermaine Jackson called her mother 'white trash' and not only was there not a word of protest but he was later guest of honour at an anti racist rally. Double standards everywhere.
    Making racist comments towards white people and ignoring those comments have become the standard in society. Double standard indeed.

  9. #69
    DC Enthusiast Tony's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,482

    Default

    I don't really see this as a loss. The first movie is fantastic, the second was tired. better to have a new director anyway, I'm sure Gunn will work again.

  10. #70
    Fantastic Member Indian Ink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    303

    Default

    Let he, who is without sin, make the next movie.

  11. #71
    Mighty Member C_Miller's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,213

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Making racist comments towards white people and ignoring those comments have become the standard in society. Double standard indeed.
    Or the sensitivity could be spawned from society's acknowledgement of the social implications that arose from 200 years of the Atlantic Slave Trade and subsequent 300 years of other forms of institutionalized racism and segregation. And the realization that there hasn't ever been true institutionalization of racism against white people by minorities in the Western World and most true racism against white people generally speaking is a response to everything I listed above. In other words, your point is a false equivalency.

  12. #72
    Extraordinary Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    With the Orishas
    Posts
    5,921

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    Well this got a whole lot stupider. Jesus.
    This is all kinds of messed up.
    "Obviously not all conservatives are racists/bigots but all racists/bigots claim to be conservative"- Unknown

  13. #73
    Extraordinary Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    With the Orishas
    Posts
    5,921

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by C_Miller View Post
    Or the sensitivity could be spawned from society's acknowledgement of the social implications that arose from 200 years of the Atlantic Slave Trade and subsequent 300 years of other forms of institutionalized racism and segregation. And the realization that there hasn't ever been true institutionalization of racism against white people by minorities in the Western World and most true racism against white people generally speaking is a response to everything I listed above. In other words, your point is a false equivalency.
    Quoted for truth.

    Comparing "racism" to whites to what black and other coloured people have faced and are still facing today (to the extent that police are called on black people for literally doing nothing wrong and people are shouting that Hispanic Americans should get out of the country) is nonsense.

    Absolute bullshit. It's a false equivalency and frankly it's not something really worth debating considering America's horrifying and brutal track record of racism.

    One can be racist towards white people but direct parallels between racism against coloured people and white people can't be drawn in the US.
    Last edited by Username taken; 07-20-2018 at 11:15 PM.
    "Obviously not all conservatives are racists/bigots but all racists/bigots claim to be conservative"- Unknown

  14. #74
    Extraordinary Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    With the Orishas
    Posts
    5,921

    Default

    Disney look stupid here in my opinion.

    Back when Gunn was hired, there was uproar around his homophobic and sexist work and YET they still hired him. Gunn himself apologised and he made the movies.

    Disney hired the guy that did PG Porn and Troma movies. They should have known this before hiring him.
    "Obviously not all conservatives are racists/bigots but all racists/bigots claim to be conservative"- Unknown

  15. #75
    Fantastic Member Indian Ink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    303

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by C_Miller View Post
    Or the sensitivity could be spawned from society's acknowledgement of the social implications that arose from 200 years of the Atlantic Slave Trade and subsequent 300 years of other forms of institutionalized racism and segregation. And the realization that there hasn't ever been true institutionalization of racism against white people by minorities in the Western World and most true racism against white people generally speaking is a response to everything I listed above. In other words, your point is a false equivalency.
    Reasons, though they should be considered, aren't excuses. Personally I don't believe in the sins of the fathers. There's unlikely to be an institutionalization of racism against any majority by a minority unless they're the greater part of of some ruling class. Otherwise the institutionalization couldn't occur to begin with.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •