A street-level team title

[Trey Strain]

Well, there are a few people who want a team title with ONLY the street-level Charlton characters on it. And there are a few others want a title that includes ALL the Charlton characters, regardless of their power levels.

I just don't think that's realistic or will sell. So this poll is to clarify things and see what people think about a team title with pretty much all of DC's street-level characters on it, which I think would have a better chance of selling. Remember, it's HARD to sell an ongoing!

It would include:

-- Batman

-- Green Arrow

-- Black Canary

-- The street-level JSA members

-- The street-level Charlton characters

-- And maybe some others who you folks might suggest

Don't worry if there are a lot of members on the team. Every member doesn't need to appear in every story.

[Carabas]

Hard no.

I very much dislike the Black Canary/Green Arrow ship.

And this line-up seems more about checking boxes than about what characters work well together or what the book will be about.

[Trey Strain]

BTW, I'd move Batman out of Justice League and into this title, where he'd be a better fit. But that's not part of the poll.

[Carabas]

BTW, I'd move Batman out of Justice League and into this title, where he'd be a better fit. But that's not part of the poll.

Hang on, I have read this book.

It only lasted 32 issues.

[MajorHoy]

A "A street-level team title"? Possibly.

However, how you suggested it:

Well, there are a few people who want a team title with ONLY the street-level Charlton characters on it. And there are a few others want a title that includes ALL the Charlton characters, regardless of their power levels.

I just don't think that's realistic or will sell. So this poll is to clarify things and see what people think about a team title with pretty much all of DC's street-level characters on it, which I think would have a better chance of selling. Remember, it's HARD to sell an ongoing!

It would include:

-- Batman

-- Green Arrow

-- Black Canary

-- The street-level JSA members

-- The street-level Charlton characters

-- And maybe some others who you folks might suggest

Don't worry if there are a lot of members on the team. Every member doesn't need to appear in every story.

No, not really interested in that.

A "street-level" team would be better off with fewer members and more geographically focused, like in just one city / state. With the monster group you've suggested, how are they suppose to get together easily? If they're scattered all over the country, what motivates them to get together with any frequency?

[SmokeMonster]

Sure. I’d have it be the new incarnation of the Outsiders.

Green Arrow
White Canary
Black Lightning
Vixen
Midnighter

Basically have it be DC’s answer to the Defenders.

[Dr. Poison]

We just had that with Birds of Prey and it didn't sell. I like all teams to be a mixtures of non-powered. lightly-powered, and heavily-powered heroes. Variety is the spice of life.

[Agent Z]

Roy Harper

Connor Hawke

Artemis Crock

Jade Nguyen

Gavin King

We just had that with Birds of Prey and it didn't sell. I like all teams to be a mixtures of non-powered. lightly-powered, and heavily-powered heroes. Variety is the spice of life.

Given that describes virtually every super team made by DC, a street level team would be variety.

[Trey Strain]

Given that describes virtually every super team made by DC, a street level team would be variety.

Yep.

If DC would publish this, the JSA, the LoS and a Flash team title, they'd be rolling. All of those offer something different from what we're seeing now.

[Korath]

Sure. I’d have it be the new incarnation of the Outsiders.

Green Arrow
White Canary
Black Lightning
Vixen
Midnighter

Basically have it be DC’s answer to the Defenders.

Robotman would have to correct me, because he was the one noticing it and I've never read Marvel's series, but the Unexpected are supposed to become the Defender's counterpart.

[ed2962]

Robotman would have to correct me, because he was the one noticing it and I've never read Marvel's series, but the Unexpected are supposed to become the Defender's counterpart.

The Unexpected are analogues of the 70's comic version of The Defenders. I think SmokeMonster was suggesting his line up could be DC's answer to the more recent Netflix version of the Defenders which is pretty much a street level team.

[j9ac9k]

So this poll is to clarify things and see what people think about a team title with pretty much all of DC's street-level characters on it, which I think would have a better chance of selling. Remember, it's HARD to sell an ongoing!

To clarify, I voted "yes" to the idea of a street level team before realizing it was meant to be an endorsement of your particular iteration, which I do not agree with. Your concept seems way overloaded to me - with rare exceptions, team books work better when you have the space to create an interesting dynamic between characters. And throwing in members from all these different teams seems odd when they already have established dynamics between their other team members. Putting together one or two members from different teams might work if there was a good reason,(whether it's something in their backstories that they have in common, or interesting personality contrasts, etc.) but it seems the only thing your team has in common is relatively low power levels and I don't see how that concept will sell without a more interesting glue to give this concept a reason for being.

[Denirac]

Yes but not with Batman: Maybe the Following Lineup

Nightwing
Green Arrow
Black Canary
White Canary
Commander Cold
The Huntress
Black Lightning
The Question (Sage)

[lemonpeace]

I am unsure of the idea of a street level book but if they were to do it, they need to keep Batman off of it and keep Green Arrow and Black Canary away from regular appearances in it. If they do this they need to stop retreading old territory, which they are already dangerously close to doing with the concept itself. There needs to be a reason beyond common creator, or previous team affiliation, or arbitrary power level. Also, ideally (and i feel like i've said this a bunch but) this should focus on new, undervalued, and/or underutilized characters. There needs to be a space on DC to give these type of characters a chance to develop and build an audience.

[j9ac9k]

...Also, ideally (and i feel like i've said this a bunch but) this should focus on new, undervalued, and/or underutilized characters. There needs to be a space on DC to give these type of characters a chance to develop and build an audience.

I whole-heartedly agree with this idea, but if it were up to me, I'd throw in a couple of established heroes in there to help sell it, unless there's a larger concept that sells it rather than the lineup. (but no, not Batman - he already has his own subgenre) In my mind, it would be akin to the JLA where there are characters with solo titles, but the heart usually ends up being the team members without their own title where the team book is where they get development.