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    On Steve Austin's podcast Hulk Hogan described working against Ultimate Warrior. Some surprising details...


    - Austin himself praised Warrior's high energy type stuff that he would do. That he would call Warrior from time to time because he said Warrior was so cool to him when he came up. That he was young in business and Warrior treated him cool.


    - Hogan himself discussed champions and one he praised is Ric Flair. That when he calls Flair , he will start off , "How's the greatest world champion doing..." because he feels Flair is the greatest world champion even today.


    - Hogan said at the time he was being billed from Venice Beach and this golden tan California guy. That he had the pythons and look. He's rocking the red and yellow and in comes Warrior with all the colors , the perfect 12 pack and he looks at Hogan. That he sees dollar signs with Warrior. That he was a better , bigger package to draw money than him.


    - Even if he'd win matches he'd ask Vince during the run what was next ? Where do we go from here. So he tells Austin he learns the finish for Wrestlemania VI and is ok with losing so he asks where he goes next from here. Vince is like , well I feel your run is kinda done since Warrior is here. And we can let you go home awhile etc. Hogan is like , well why not let me start up the ramp...and come back down and turn heel on him.

    - Vince is like 'Nooo no it will never work. Your too beloved as Hulk Hogan to make it work." Hogan explains he began his career as a heel and could have done a sorta HHH/Hollywood Hogan run then there against Warrior. But Vince put the kibosh on it saying no it would never work that he was a face. Warrior's run was short as Vince called him back as they soon realized Warrior wasn't drawing so well so it was a weird couple years there.


    - In the match Hogan saw warning signs. That he backstage had laid out the match and said the big points of it was A-B-C-D-E , that if they hit those points the people would love it and the match is solid. But they had to work around to each point. At one point Warrior gets gassed as Hulk puts him in a rear chinlock as he keeps going "Lets go home..." to end it. Hogan is like dude we still got 5-8 minutes left , we can't til we deliver these spots as planned. Hogan tells him what final spots they nail and gets Warrior to deliver it. But Warrior was so gassed he barely could press him at the end.


    - Austin praised Hogan on protecting himself which he agrees with that a champion has to protect himself. Hulk explains as a mindset he always heard the Champion makes more money since he's the top guy. He learned that from the original Sheik coming in and once he returned he held Vince Jr to that same deal. That he as champion should earn more. Also he wanted even if he beat a guy clean or by DQ etc or lost , the guy leaving his program was worth more money to work.


    - Hogan brings up the wild west aspect then than today. That if he was doing shows and say Roddy Piper or One Man Gang refused a finish (DQ or clean) he'd have to call Vince as he'd tell Hulk to work it out. Unlike today where guys don't care , then it was a lot different. So he'd propose things like say , look if I do win , how about you jump me during pose and make me do some color (bleed). That then the Hulkamania thing was so damn hot that if they sold the Spectrum and that happened ; they'd come right back again to see more matches of that guy vs him !

    Roddy Piper he claims then never did a job for him. That he'd tease Roddy later in life ; how they could have done Randy Savage style business and he'd flip the belt to him and back had he done that. They could have done huge and Piper admitted he should have then. They could have done a couple title changes had Roddy let him go over then.


    - So it goes back to Warrior and protecting himself. Where he told Warrior he needed 1 time to kick out of his finish and then let him go over. That he's still HULK HOGAN and now you just beat a huge monster in him. Austin praised this as he said he kicked out right at the right moment ; that it was like some Japan fighting spirit . Warrior won , but he barely won so there was that there. That Hogan was still the MAN. Plus handing the belt to him.


    - Hogan said it was all calculated to do that entire thing. That Hebner was supposed to hand him the title in ring and he hand it to Warrior. So he ran out and did that there and gave him an emotional hug and handed him the belt. Then as he started up the aisle he just wished Vince would have let him go heel...to come back and attack Warrior then.


    - Austin brought up the next year he beat Sgt. Slaughter and it was over. Hogan brought up that once the company started to tour the towns with Warrior as champion business took a turn and he was called back months later. He told them , if only you guys had let me go heel and feud for months ahead...I could have really put him more over.


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    Larry Zbyszko discussed Ivan Putski and the insane riot that started in 1980 after a match. Also the wild post match deal after the riot ....



    - Larry discussed how Putski was pretty over as a face for his act. He wasn't a great wrestler per say but his act as the Polish Power and strong man act sold so well. That as a wrestler he worked around Putski's style to sell for him .He had the Putski hammer move and slam so Larry knew what worked for him. Fans loved him for the most part. Now some loved heels as they do today.

    - One fan near front row is yelling crazy shit to Putski how he went with his mother last night. Then a couple more insane things to Ivan Putski. Suddenly the fan yells out how short Putski is as this sets him off. Ivan Putski jumps out of the ring and starts slapping the fan around. This makes the audience even more wild as Larry waits and once he comes back in crotches him in the ropes and gets a quick roll up pin.

    - This sets things OFF. The fans go insane into a riot as people rush at him out of the ring as he's battling to the back. He claims he kicked and stomped one guy who came at him as they managed to drag that guy away. Then after more insanity with one old man hitting him with a metal cane to the head ; he feels someone kick him in the ass it feels like. So he finally gets back to the locker room.


    - Arnold Skaaland (an old WWF official) is playing cribbage real calm and asks how things went , as Larry joked ...same as usual. Because it wasn't a big deal then when people went off. Its just he feels someone kicked him in the behind and he puts his hand back there and pulls out a knife blade. As he goes...'Someone stabbed me in the ass !" He said the handle had broken off but he pulled the blade out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1WEJhW2je4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkseid Is View Post
    I used to think Pillman was an awful wrestler when I was a kid because he was Stone Cold's bitch. Much like I thought Dana Carvey sucked because he was the sidekick on Wayne's World. Then you grow up and realize Brian Pillman and Dana Carvey were amazing. I was a young stupid kid though
    You should have seen him in Stampede Wrestling. The guy was a worker.

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    To me, real OLD School wrestling happened in the 70s and 80s. I live in Canada and we got Stampede Wrestling and wrestling out of Toronto. We never saw The southern territories. If it wasn't Canadian, you didn't see it. Never got to see ECW, AWA, any Crockette stuff or Texas stuff. Heard things about them but never saw them. I go back to the Days of Sweet Daddy Siki, Dan Kroffat, Mike Shaw (Makan Singh), Edwuard Carpantier. These are the wrestlers I grew up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Allan View Post
    To me, real OLD School wrestling happened in the 70s and 80s. I live in Canada and we got Stampede Wrestling and wrestling out of Toronto. We never saw The southern territories. If it wasn't Canadian, you didn't see it. Never got to see ECW, AWA, any Crockette stuff or Texas stuff. Heard things about them but never saw them. I go back to the Days of Sweet Daddy Siki, Dan Kroffat, Mike Shaw (Makan Singh), Edwuard Carpantier. These are the wrestlers I grew up with.
    ECW really got me back into loving wrestling again in mid 1990's. I had drifted away and I was like...ahh now this...this is unique. It helped that the Monday Night Wars started right off from that. I am hoping AEW reignites that spark again for me.
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    So Al Snow in a shoot discussed the infamous Tough Enough moments where Vince threw them into the ring with guys and didn't realize they were young and didn't know much about business.


    - Al puts over that there is a reason EVERYTHING has to be staged and worked out. Because you can't control what could happen if you don't.

    - He brings up how Nick was thrown against Big Show who body slammed one of them (named Nick). So the kid right after the slam didn't realize he was supposed to sell it since he was new and hungry. Big Show reacted badly to this and nearly took the kids head off. Al claims Vince came to him and told him how this would go with him slamming guys. Snow was like , Vince we should have him chest slap them because you INSTANTLY sell that hit...because its like a frying pan hitting your chest.

    He was over-ruled and the reaction was seen below.




    - Snow discussed the Puder incident and said that the WWE obviously saw something in Puder but was setting him up to fail possibly. They offered him a 4 year deal for $1 million dollars after the original deal ended. And with a million dollars your supposed to have all these huge expectations. A fact that Puder was a great athlete and great self promoter . He had talent it was him starting from scratch and they knew this.
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    So watching a shoot of New Jack , he details some things. As well as his aborted WWF tryout he had in early 2000's.





    - New Jack brings up he went to a taping for this "tryout" and when he got there Dean Malenko , pulled him to the side. Telling him to not walk up to Vince McMahon after it. That if Vince wants to talk he'll come see him. You just don't do it. New Jack wondered if Malenko was doing it as a rib or if this was a rule of locker room.


    - Anyhow he's walking down the hallway and passes Vince ; so he like extended his hand to introduce himself and thank him for having come down. Vince seemed puzzled for this and both went on. Later Jack went to check where his name was at and saw it had been removed. The guy told him he was gonna get paid and he could sit and watch the show. Jack was like , fuck that ...and walked next door to a seafood place to eat.


    - MVP at the time was wanting a job as well and he was trying to convince New Jack that they needed to play the game. New Jack himself is like , I walked him back over and went to my motel n flew home. He brings up how people claim he can't play well with others but he just honestly admits he doesn't give a shit for the "games" people try and play. He refuses those games with anyone and was a grown ass man in the business at 30 when he started and doesn't need it.



    - New Jack claims he heard later that Vince realized who he was quick and heard he couldn't control him. That he is the type of guy who can't be controlled so he was sent packing before he even got a shot. The guy brings up if he did get hired and was handed a script to read..."I'd hand it right back..." Jack brings up how he worked in ECW and how he'd work a promo.

    He'd ask Heyman what bullet point he needed to hit and he could do the rest promo wise. That he doesn't need anyone to tell him what to say because he can nail it himself . That his promos were so real it seems people backstage was scared of him. That people even now wonder if he's as scary as he was in promos.
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