Magic is a fairly nebulous thing. I don't think a cap based on a specific character is the best way to limit that.
Magic is a fairly nebulous thing. I don't think a cap based on a specific character is the best way to limit that.
For telepaths their are more power vs power scenes than take over entire buildings/group scenes that Prof X has. Martian Manhunter in both Smallville and CW has telepathy but never have used it to take over groups of people, Hector Hammond in GL also didn't do large groups like Xaveir did. Outside of Jean and Apocalypse mathcing Xavier even they don't have his (both Young and Old Xavier)group feats but it can be assumed.
I also haven't seen much of Harry Potter magic so I don't have a number feats for them, but Strange is at least an 8 imo as he does need to move his hands to cast most spells and some magic users don't. If he was always working on thought or motionless magic speed than he should be a 10 or close to it.
Magic can, has, and absolutely always will be measured based on specific characters.
This will be the sixth (I think) league I've ran and something like the eighth overall. Magic has always been measured and, by Rumbles standards, it's been quantifiable for more than a decade.
Buffyverse vampires were established to be immune to psychic telepathy in Earshot, so that's a defense if we make vampirization an item. Various characters have also demonstrated telepathic defenses.
I’d like to throw in as an entrant.
I also like the idea of a Live Action version.
Perhaps I missed it but would items only be from Live Action aswell?
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I don’t think so.
We pick the top-end magic user, and the only other magic users we allow are those who couldn’t beat him/her more than 5 times out of 10 in Khazan using magic. It really is that simple.
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We have our minimum requirement in terms of numbers, so this will definitely be going ahead.
I’ll find somewhere to host the draft list and store etc and we can start stocking them while we wait for anyone else to join.
I asked this earlier. I no longer have access to the ones I created and I wasn’t involved in the last league.
It may be worth starting again anyway, as a lot (if not all) of the items and characters will have new values, based on the new power limit.
To be honest, I’ve already made a fairly substantial offline start to the character list. You guys can review the values once it’s online.
Just tried to make a Wiki using Wikidot and, to be honest, I didn't have a clue what the hell was going on. I used be clued-up on all that, but it's been years.
Does anyone know of anywhere that could host a free, simple website to put the league data on?
N.B. Here's where I'm at with the draft list (note, all values are tentative - feel free to pipe up regarding any you consider to be wrong):
Abomination (MCU) 7
Absorbing Man (MCU) 6
Achilles (Troy) 1
Adam (Buffyverse) 4
Adam Monroe (Heroes) 2
Aldar (Smallville) 8
Aldrich Killian (MCU) 7
Angel (Buffyverse) 2
Apocalypse (X-Men Movies) 9
Apollo Creed (Rocky Movies) 1
Aquaman (DCEU) 7
Ares (DCEU) 8
Bane (Batman & Robin Movies) 2
Bane (The Dark Knight Rises) 2
Batman (1960s TV Series) 5
Batman (Clooney) 2
Batman (DCEU) 2
Batman (Dark Knight Trilogy) 2
Batman (Keaton) 2
Batman (Kilmer) 2
Beast, The (Buffyverse) 4
Ben Richards (The Running Man) 1
Black Panther (MCU) 4
Black Widow (MCU) 1
Blade (Blade Trilogy) 3
Bobbi Morse (MCU) 1
Bucky Barnes (MCU) 2
Buffy Summers (Buffyverse) 2
Bumblebee (Transformers Movies) 7
Buzzsaw (The Running Man) 1
Caleb (Buffyverse) 2
Captain America (MCU) 2
Charles Gunn (Buffyverse) 1
Chucky (Child's Play Movies) 1
Claire Bennet (Heroes) 2
Cloverfield Monster (Cloverfield) 8
Clubber Lang (Rocky III) 1
Connor (Buffyverse) 2
Corvus Glaive (MCU) 3
Craig (Creep) 1
Creeper, The (Jeepers Creepers Movies) 3
Cull Obsidian (MCU) 7
Cyclops (X-Men Movies) 3
Cyborg (DCEU) 7
D.L. Hawkins (Heroes) 3
D'Hoffryn (Buffyverse) 6
Dalek Caan (Whoniverse) 7
Dalek Sec (Whoniverse) 7
Dalek Thay (Whoniverse) 7
Dalek Jast (Whoniverse) 7
Daphne Millbrook (Heroes) 7
Daredevil (Daredevil Movie) 2
Daredevil (MCU) 2
Darla (Buffyverse) 2
David Dunn (Unbreakable) 2
Deadpool (Deapool Movies) 3
Deadpool (X-Men Origins: Wolverine) 6
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Hartnell) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Troughton) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Pertwee) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, T.Baker) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Davison) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, C.Baker) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, McCoy) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, McGann) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Eccleston) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Tennant) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Smith) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Capaldi) 4
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Whittaker) 3
Doctor, The (Whoniverse, Hurt) 2
Doctor Doom (Fant4stic) 9
Doctor Doom (Fantastic Four Movies) 6
Doctor Octopus (Spider-Man 2) 4
Doctor Strange (MCU) 8
Doomsday (DCEU) 10
Drake (Blade: Trinity) 3
Drax (MCU) 3
Drusilla (Buffyverse) 2
Dynamo (The Running Man) 1
Ebony Maw (MCU) 6
Edgar (Heroes) 3
Electro (The Amazing Spider-Man 2) 7
Eli (Heroes) 5
Emma Frost (X-Men Movies) 5
Faith Lehane (Buffyverse) 2
Falcon (MCU) 1
Fandral (MCU) 3
Fireball (The Running Man) 1
Flash (DCEU) 9
G-Girl (My Super Ex-Girlfriend) 10
Gamora (MCU) 3
General Zod (DCEU) 10
Ghost Rider (Ghost Rider Movies) 7
Ghost Rider (MCU) 6
Glory (Buffyverse) 7
Godzilla (Godzilla 1998) 8
Godzilla (MonsterVerse) 10
Green Goblin (The Amazing Spider-Man 2) 4
Green Goblin (Spider-Man) 4
Groot (MCU) 6
Hal Jordan (Green Lantern Movie) 9
Hancock (Hancock) 9
Hannibal King (Blade: Trinity) 2
Harley Quinn (DCEU) 1
Hawkeye (MCU) 2
He-Man (Masters of the Universe) 3
Hector (Troy) 1
Hector Hammond (Green Lantern Movie) 6
Hela (MCU) 8
Hellboy (Hellboy Movies) 4
Hiro Nakamura (Heroes) 7
Hogun (MCU) 3
Hulk (MCU) 8
Hulk (Hulk Movie) 8
Hulk (The Incredible Hulk TV Series) 2
Human Torch (Fant4stic) 5
Human Torch (Fantastic Four Movies) 6
Iceman (X-Men Movies) 4
Illyria (Buffyverse) 7
Invisible Woman (Fant4stic) 6
Invisible Woman (Fantastic Four Movies) 7
Iron Fist (MCU) 2
Iron Man (MCU) 7
Iron Monger (MCU) 5
Ivan Drago (Rocky IV) 1
Jacob Goodnight (See No Evil Movies) 2
Jared Nomak (Blade 2) 3
Jasmine (Buffyverse) 7
Jason Voorhees (Friday the 13th Movies) 2
Jemma Simmons (MCU) 1
Jessica Jones (MCU) 3
John Rambo (Rambo Movies) 2
Jonah Hex (Jonah Hex) 1
Juggernaut (Deadpool Movies) 6
Juggernaut (X-Men: The Last Stand) 4
Kakistos (Buffyverse) 2
Kendra Young (Buffyverse) 2
Kevin (Sin City Movies) 2
Kilgrave (MCU) 2
King Leonidas (300) 1
Kong (Peter Jackson's King Kong) 6
Kong (MonsterVerse) 8
Korath (MCU) 3
Kurse (MCU) 8
Lance Hunter (MCU) 1
Leo Fitz (MCU) 1
Lizard (The Amazing Spider-Man) 4
Loki (MCU) 7
Luke Cage (MCU) 4
M'Baku (MCU) 1
Magneto (X-Men Movies) 8
Malekith (MCU) 5
Marv (Sin City Movies) 2
Mantis (MCU) 4
Marcus Hamilton (Buffyverse) 2
Maria Hill (MCU) 1
Mary Embrey (Hancock) 9
Master, The (Buffyverse) 3
Matt Parkman (Heroes) 4
Maximus Decimus Meridius (Gladiator) 1
Megatron (Transformers Movies) 8
Melinda May (MCU) 1
Micah Sanders (Heroes) 2
Michael Myers (Halloween) 2
Mister Fantastic (Fant4stic) 3
Mister Fantastic (Fantastic Four Movies) 3
Mr. Freeze (Batman & Robin Movie) 1
Mr. Glass (Unbreakable) 1
Nebula (MCU) 3
Negasonic Teenage Warhead (Deadpool Movies) 6
Nick Fury (MCU) 1
Nick Fury (Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.) 1
Niki Sanders (Heroes) 2
Noah Bennet (Heroes) 1
Okoye (MCU) 1
Optimus Prime (Transformers Movies) 8
Ozymandias (Watchmen Movie) 3
Paris (Troy) 1
Peter Petrelli (Heroes) 5
Phil Coulson (MCU) 1
Pinhead (Hellraiser Movies) 7
Predator, The (Predator) 3
Professor X (X-Men Movies) 8
Proxima Midnight (MCU) 2
Punisher (MCU) 1
Quake (MCU) 6
Quicksilver (MCU) 7
Quicksilver (X-Men Movies) 8
Riley Finn (Buffyverse) 1
Robin (1960s Batman) 1
Robin (Batman & Robin) 1
Robin Wood (Buffyverse) 1
RoboCop (RoboCop Movies) 2
Rocket (MCU) 2
Rocky Balboa (Rocky Movies) 1
Rogue (X-Men Movies) 2
Ronan (MCU) 5
Rupert Giles (Buffyverse) 1
Sahjhan (Buffyverse) 6
Samuel (Heroes) 3
Sandman (Spider-Man 3) 6
Scarlet Witch (MCU) 8
Shuri (MCU) 1
Sif (MCU) 4
Silver Samurai (The Wolverine) 4
Skeletor (Masters of the Universe) 3
Spider-Man (Garfield) 5
Spider-Man (MCU) 6
Spider-Man (Maguire) 6
Spike (Buffyverse) 2
Star-Lord (MCU) 2
Steel (Steel Movie) 3
Steppenwolf (DCEU) 9
Subzero (The Running Man) 1
Superman (DCEU) 10
Sylar (Heroes) 7
T-800 (Terminator Movies) 2
T-1000 (Terminator Movies) 4
Tara Maclay (Buffyverse) 2
Thanos (MCU) 10
Thing, The (Fant4stic) 6
Thing, The (Fantastic Four Movies) 7
Thor (MCU) 9
Thor (The Incredible Hulk TV Series) 2
Titan (Smallville) 8
Tommy Gunn (Rocky V) 1
Ubervamp, The (Buffyverse) 2
Ultron (MCU) 7
Venom (Spider-Man 3) 6
Vision (MCU) 9
Volstagg (MCU) 3
Vulture (MCU) 4
War Machine (MCU) 6
Wesley Wyndam-Pryce (Buffyverse) 1
Whiplash (MCU) 6
Willow Rosenberg (Buffyverse) 7
Wolverine (X-Men Movies) 3
Wonder Woman (DCEU) 9
X-23 (Logan) 2
Xander Harris (Buffyverse) 1
Yondu Udonta (MCU) 3
N.B. Really wasn't sure how to value Jodie Whittaker Doctor, as she has no feats yet - but she may get some as the league goes. I guess we could just leave her out.
Last edited by KJS; 08-01-2018 at 07:04 AM.