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    Hot off the success of The Equalizer 2, screenwriter Richard Wenk is being brought on to write a Kraven the Hunter movie for Sony Pictures, multiple sources tell Collider.

    Back in June 2017, THR reported that Sony was planning to expand the Spider-Man universe with films like Silver & Black, while “other projects will focus on Kraven the Hunter and Mysterio,” so news of the solo Kraven project itself is more than a year old. However, now that Sony is in the process of hiring a writer, it’s a strong sign that the studio is getting serious about expanding the non-Spider-Man Spidey universe and that the Kraven movie is heating up.

    Also known as Sergei Kravinoff, Kraven the Hunter is one of Spider-Man’s best known and most formidable enemies, as well as the half-brother of the Chameleon. The character has appeared in numerous Spider-Man properties including animated series, video games and of course, the Marvel comics, including the popular story Kraven’s Last Hunt. Kraven is known for hunting big game, but what is Kraven without his white whale Spider-Man, who he considers his ultimate trophy? That’s what Wenk will be tasked with figuring out, as Spider-Man himself is still tied up solely in the Marvel Cinematic Universe while films like Kraven and Venom exist in their own separate universe with no Marvel Studios oversight. Wenk will also be tasked with introducing Kraven the Hunter to movie audiences, as the character has never appeared on the big screen before.

    Quite frankly, the future of Kraven and other spinoffs will likely be determined by how Venom performs at the global box office. One big question that still surrounds Venom is whether that film will be rated R or PG-13. The latter rating would allow Venom to dovetail with Spider-Man down the line, while an R-rating would indicate that Sony is willing to chase a different, more adult audience. That gamble paid off for Fox and Deadpool, but it might be too risky for Sony, given all that’s at stake. And besides, if Sony was going to go the R-rated route, it probably would’ve announced that intention by now. If Venom is going to be killing and eating people in a violent fashion, it may be tough for Sony to put the character into a more family-friendly Spider-Man movie down the line, as the tone of each film would clash with rather than compliment each other. Either way, if Venom is a success, I’d expect Kraven to chase the same audience, and if Venom underperforms, I could see Sony going in the opposite direction in terms of what rating future spinoffs would chase.

    And speaking of the studio, sources say that Sony executive Palak Patel has been instrumental in exploring new directions to take the Spidey universe under the supervision of Columbia Pictures president Sanford Panitch. Patel isn’t in charge of Sony’s universe of Marvel characters in the way that Walter Hamada is in charge of DC movies at Warner Bros. — for example, Patel isn’t involved in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, which was overseen by Kristine Belson at Sony Pictures Animation, who reports directly to Tom Rothman — but as one of Panitch’s direct reports, he is often pulled into development meetings for films based on Marvel characters. So while Patel did work on Venom, he also worked on Superfly, so Marvel movies are hardly his sole focus at Sony.

    Sony is high on Wenk after The Equalizer 2 opened to $36 million, which is nearly $2 million more than the first film. The sequel has grossed $68 million at the domestic box office in less than two weeks of release, while the original took in nearly $200 million worldwide. Wenk’s previous credits include 16 Blocks, The Mechanic, The Expendables 2, Jack Reacher: Never Go Back, and Antoine Fuqua’s remake of The Magnificent Seven. He’s represented by the Gersh Agency and the Arlook Group, neither of which responded to requests for comment.
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    Y'know, I could comment on how silly Sony's attempts to create a Spider-Man Cinematic Universe without Spider-Man is for the umpteenth time, to where they're trying to make a movie out of bloody Kraven of all people (and I like Kraven), but instead I'm just going to express my disappointment if this means we won't see Spidey fight Kraven in the MCU .

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    I roll my eyes every time I see news of a Spider-Man character getting a movie developed by Sony
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    I soooooooo dislike Sony sometimes. I really do.

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    I mean.., it kind of makes sense. Kraven is a character that would transition well to the big screen. But what is Kraven hunting that does well besides Lizard?
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    Like, what do you even do with Kraven? His whole deal is hunting Spider-Man. 89% of his character is based around hunting Spider-Man.

    This isn't like Venom where he had a "Lethal Protector" phase. Kraven is predominantly known for hunting Spider-Man and, occasionally, another hero.

    Do you try to spin Kraven as this noble anti-hero with some scruples? Do you make this into something like the Predator? Why do you even make a Kraven movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Why do you even make a Kraven movie?
    to piss me off. Honestly I thought they would use his character in the Mcu for the obvious sinister six they are building up in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    to piss me off. Honestly I thought they would use his character in the Mcu for the obvious sinister six they are building up in there
    Not to mention if the "Dimitri" character in Homecoming ends up being Chameleon, who is Kraven's brother.

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    Here's hoping they cast either Gerard Butler or a no-name Russian actor that looks like Kraven. Also hope they don't make him out to be a good guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Not to mention if the "Dimitri" character in Homecoming ends up being Chameleon, who is Kraven's brother.
    Well, IIRC, that was a retcon only established in the late 90s.
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    lol Sony is going wild.. I don't think this is a good idea, and i doubt they'll move forward with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Like, what do you even do with Kraven? His whole deal is hunting Spider-Man. 89% of his character is based around hunting Spider-Man.

    This isn't like Venom where he had a "Lethal Protector" phase. Kraven is predominantly known for hunting Spider-Man and, occasionally, another hero.
    Well this is the only thing i could imagine they could make him to hunt:



    But even if that's the case i still think it's a bad idea.

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    I mean, if they tie it to Venom, that would make sense.

    You have this jaded hunter who has hunted everything on Earth or just enough he just doesn't have the same thrill anymore to find out something from another world showed up right on his doorstep. That sounds like more than enough, but I am reluctant to call that more than enough reason to make a movie.

    He honestly would be better served in the MCU seeing as Black Panther would suit the aesthetic, Spider-man is established, and since Disney has access to the Predator as of 2019, that would be a bizarre versus movie that would be crazy enough to warrant it. Actually that would be amazing in of itself #PredatorfortheMCU .
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    i know its hard for us to divorce these characters from their role as ancillary elements to spider-man, but sony are probably looking at them as fresh IP concepts to be mined in their own rights. and they might be right in some cases.

    dematteis compared him to a driven, tortured dostoyevsky character. which to me, sounds like a great basis for a movie. that sounds like a character that can sustain itself for at least one story.

    yeah, they are more than likely still banking that the brand pulls in that fan cash...but 50 shades "'worked" commercially despite (in fact, due to) moving far away from its source material.

    i'll keep an open mind for now
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    Not sure this'll work. Unlike Venom, who has had development outside of being a Spidey character, Kraven is defined as being a Spider-Man villain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Why do you even make a Kraven movie?
    Paint fumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Not sure this'll work. Unlike Venom, who has had development outside of being a Spidey character, Kraven is defined as being a Spider-Man villain.
    it'd take a lot of work, for sure. and you'd need to replace spidey with another "moby dick"
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