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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    The "He's no angel" narrative is the nasty rash on the side of the police brutality problem. Every time something bad happens is flares up, as anything no matter how minor suddenly becomes a justification for murder.
    From Patton Oswalt on Twitter:

    In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who shoot them in their homes; and the district attorneys, who release irrelevant search warrants after the fact. These are their bullshit stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Think over every time CNN or MSNBC have had Michael Avenatti on or ran yet another piece on "Crazy Stuff Rudy Is Saying Today..." Now, think about if they had ran a piece on Michigan one out of ever four times they did so.

    While I know that the Moore episode was a part of a week focusing on the upcoming elections, it was still good to see the focus on Michigan.

    Hopefully, that doesn't fall by the wayside after the elections.
    I don't see Fox news bustin their ass to cover it either. I agree it should be covered more but the other side deliberately ignores anything that makes the GOP look bad....like that time when Hannity cut away to a car chase


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    WSJ had one source say that said that but it's been debunked.

    Turned out it was just light kidnapping with a touch of rape.

    No biggie.
    Who said anything about rape?
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    Slamming ‘Judicial Activism,’ Sessions Tells DOJ Lawyers To Fight Nationwide Injunctions

    WASHINGTON ― Attorney General Jeff Sessions wants Justice Department attorneys to push back on federal judges who have imposed nationwide injunctions against some of the Trump administration’s most controversial policies.

    In a memo to the nation’s 94 U.S. Attorneys’ Offices on Thursday, Sessions said judges have been “acting outside the bounds of their authority and granting relief that reaches far beyond the confines of the particular case or controversy before them.”

    The Trump administration has faced 25 nationwide injunctions, Sessions said, including cases involving bans on travel, transgender members of the military, and federal funding for so-called sanctuary cities.

    The memo instructs litigators to remind courts of constitutional limits on their authority; emphasize that the rise in nationwide injunctions is “an historical anomaly inconsistent with centuries of judicial practices”; and argue that nationwide injunctions could discourage other litigants from suing and may “further undermine the public’s confidence in the judiciary because they may be perceived as a sign of disrespect from one court to another.”

    “Increasingly, we are seeing individual federal district judges go beyond the parties before the court to give injunctions or orders that block the entire federal government from enforcing a law or policy throughout the country,” Sessions said in a statement.

    “This kind of judicial activism did not happen a single time in our first 175 years as a nation, but it has become common in recent years,” Sessions said. “This trend must stop. We have a government to run. The Constitution does not grant to a single district judge the power to veto executive branch actions with respect to parties not before the court. Nor does it provide the judiciary with authority to conduct oversight of or review policy of the executive branch. These abuses of judicial power are contrary to law, and with these new guidelines, this Department is going to continue to fight them.”
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    This Tweet relates to a series of Tweets that support Cruz, but each Tweet is identical, automated.

    Ted Cruz easily receives endorsement from other robots
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    Willie Nelson is playing his first-ever political concert, for Beto O’Rourke. Some fans are abandoning him.

    On a muggy Fourth of July night just outside Austin, Rep. Beto O’Rourke walked on stage wearing a light blue button-down, with a Texas-size American flag in the background. But rather than one of his campaign rallies in his Senate bid against Republican Ted Cruz, the Democrat was in front of the thousands that came out for Willie Nelson’s Fourth of July Picnic, an annual celebration of country music started by the legendary singer 45 years ago.

    Met with a mix of wild cheers and a fair share of booing on the soggy holiday, O’Rourke explained why this Independence Day mattered even more to the country, expressing hope that “the big, bold, confident, strong people of the state of Texas” would help show the rest of the United States that there’s no need to be afraid of immigrants, Muslims or anyone else who might be considered different.

    “It’s my honor to be here tonight, to be able to work with so many of you,” he said just before the fireworks, “to be with legends like Ray [Wylie Hubbard] and Willie, who ensure that in times of disappointment and darkness that we meet that with power and joy and rock-and-roll music.”
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    So I grew up North Shore of MA. A bunch of gas lines all over the cities of Lawrence, Andover, and North Andover caught fire. Peoples houses were literally getting blown up last night. My mom lives right down the street from it. Said it’s like a freaking warzone.

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    The irony is inescapable. No one in the administration has promoted, projected and protected Trump's agenda more than Sessions, and yet, Caramel Caligula hates the man because he made the mistake of following the letter of the law and recusing himself from the Russia probe. Go figure.

    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    So I grew up North Shore of MA. A bunch of gas lines all over the cities of Lawrence, Andover, and North Andover caught fire. Peoples houses were literally getting blown up last night. My mom lives right down the street from it. Said it’s like a freaking warzone.
    I heard about that story this morning. Absolutely nightmarish. Is your mom okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    So I grew up North Shore of MA. A bunch of gas lines all over the cities of Lawrence, Andover, and North Andover caught fire. Peoples houses were literally getting blown up last night. My mom lives right down the street from it. Said it’s like a freaking warzone.
    They were rowing boats down the streets in Houston during the last hurricane -- I had about six family members who lost homes and still haven't permanently relocated.

    One guy I talked to said he lost everything and all he got from the government in compensation was a $10K relief payout -- at least he was working but if he didn't have that income you have to wonder how things would have turned out for him.

    Naturally all the prices on housing went up as well -- the family members I mentioned are paying about an extra $200-$300 a month in rent in their new apartments, while a few others are staying at the hotel shelters.

    Meanwhile, the Republicans are taking our tax money and spending it on warfare and detention camps for refugees and children instead of focusing on taking care of American citizens in need.

    Edit: Not to mention ignoring climate change -- and actually promoting coal and fossil fuels -- like suicidal idiots.
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    When i was in school, we were taught that

    right = conservative = strict adherence to constitution (govt only does what the constitution says), small goverment, fiscally cheap

    left = liberal = loose adherence to constitution (if its not in there, its free game), big goverment, fiscally not cheap

    my question is:

    a. was this ever true?

    b. if it was, when did it change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    When i was in school, we were taught that

    right = conservative = strict adherence to constitution (govt only does what the constitution says), small goverment, fiscally cheap

    left = liberal = loose adherence to constitution (if its not in there, its free game), big goverment, fiscally not cheap

    my question is:

    a. was this ever true?

    b. if it was, when did it change?
    In a broad, general sense it was true. But there are subsets of each group that vie for control over all of it.

    The Conservative side includes the Ayn Rand/Paul Ryan Objectivism/Rational Individualism types who believe that the wealthy are the rulers of the world, and that the poor are left to their own devices. The 'Golden City on the Hill' populated with only the elite of the elite. Don't help others, only help yourselves.

    It also includes the Radical Right, who are the ultimate manifestation of Tribalism, isolationism, and anti-governmentalism. It is more than just not wanting to pay taxes, but also to have no laws and to have the ultimate freedom to do whatever they want.

    On the Left, the big 'Boggieman' is Radical Socialism. An idea that no one should be wealthy, that everyone should be equal, and that Government should oversee everyone like a parent oversees a child. Problem with this, the reason why it will never get this extreme, is that Capitalism works and works very well as long as it is not allowed to drift too far to the Right.

    It becomes a balancing act. America is a great place for Social Experimentation. For mixing and blending ideas to find the right balance. Assuming that we don't have another situation like we have now. The scales in the US are tipped too far to one side, the balance is off.

    So, basically, to answer your question, yes but it's more complicated than that.
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    Who said anything about rape?
    Todd Akin, for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    In a broad, general sense it was true. But there are subsets of each group that vie for control over all of it.

    The Conservative side includes the Ayn Rand/Paul Ryan Objectivism/Rational Individualism types who believe that the wealthy are the rulers of the world, and that the poor are left to their own devices. The 'Golden City on the Hill' populated with only the elite of the elite. Don't help others, only help yourselves.

    It also includes the Radical Right, who are the ultimate manifestation of Tribalism, isolationism, and anti-governmentalism. It is more than just not wanting to pay taxes, but also to have no laws and to have the ultimate freedom to do whatever they want.

    On the Left, the big 'Boggieman' is Radical Socialism. An idea that no one should be wealthy, that everyone should be equal, and that Government should oversee everyone like a parent oversees a child. Problem with this, the reason why it will never get this extreme, is that Capitalism works and works very well as long as it is not allowed to drift too far to the Right.

    It becomes a balancing act. America is a great place for Social Experimentation. For mixing and blending ideas to find the right balance. Assuming that we don't have another situation like we have now. The scales in the US are tipped too far to one side, the balance is off.

    So, basically, to answer your question, yes but it's more complicated than that.
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    The Right Proclaim themselves as strict adherents to the Constitution. The reason why is because they are actually opposed to the Constitution. If you think about it, the Constitution is a 'Socialist' Document, it creates a Government, establishing laws and rules by which the country is run. It grants freedoms and rights to citizens, which means to all citizens, not just to elites or to those within one particular 'Tribe'.

    They have to live with the Constitution, they can't simply destroy it, so instead they hold fast to the idea that the Constitution is Immutable. That it has to be interpreted exactly as written, even if the times have changed, or to interpret as they want in order to limit it's effects.

    The last thing 'Elites' or 'Tribalists' want is to give those who are outsiders, the poor, the non-whites, immigrants, and so on, a means of climbing the social ladder and gaining wealth and power. Like an 'All Mans Club' being forced to let a Woman join.

    The Left sees the Constitution as a good start, but imperfect, outdated, and in serious need of upgrading. They are not opposed to the Constitution, but they are opposed to treating it literally and strictly enforcing it without using the social lenses of current conditions.
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