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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Please explain to me the point. I don't want to make any mistakes regarding your political views.
    The point is that you failed to see the forest because you were looking at the trees. The individual students are the Trees, the school as whole is the Forest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    The kids are just a symptom of the larger problem, which predates Trump, of affluent white boys generally not being held accountable for anything, which in turn encourages them to act like dickheads because they have armies of right wing commentators defending them in the name of triggering the libs or promoting white heritage or whatever nonsense. And what the hell were those kids doing there in the first place? What teenage boy have you ever met that had an informed and nuanced opinion on the merits of abortion and women's rights, never mind Native American issues?
    BINGO! Those miserable little snots more than likely didn’t give even half a shit about those issues. By wearing those MAGA hats, they were there for no other reason than to rile up the libs and otherwise act like the smacked assed, white privilege fools that school has been churning out for years.
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    Let's not pretend Mets is being anything other than a far right apologist at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Let's look at where mistakes were made.

    My initial response in this thread was to WorstBlogEver, who wrote that a kid "bailed from the March of Life so he could go harass the Native American Vietnam veteran in DC."
    I wasn't referring to his link -- I was referring to my original post that included the first video and the comments from Nathan Phillips.

    Another problem with these "dialogues" is that you are constantly trying to address so many people at once that little to nothing really gets resolved -- it just becomes a matter of addressing talking points, like about how these young men were mistreated by the media and how the "black Israelites" were really at fault, and therefore we should be more careful in our scrutiny despite the fact that we all saw how said young men behaved on the video and we all know that the man they are supporting with their MAGA hats is a seasoned racist, something you repeatedly fail to contextualize into the situation as a whole.

    So -- again -- if your take on the situation is that those young men are not at fault, then so be it.

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    Gees, so self-conscious and weak.

    President Trump's official Facebook account has been posting photoshopped images that make his fingers look longer. Seriously.

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    An interesting article on Moscow's libraries and their revival, something we're also seeing signs of here.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/01/21/68558...a-loud-revival

    In recent years, the city's team in charge of libraries has discarded almost all traditional concepts of what a public library is.
    "We have a different idea from the way things used to be. A library can be a loud place," says Maria Rogachyova, the official who oversees city libraries. "Of course there should be some quiet nooks where you can focus on your reading, but our libraries also host a huge amount of loud events."
    The Dostoevsky Library hosts three to four events a day, including language clubs, readings and lectures. Once an acoustic music concert got so loud that there were noise complaints from the hookah lounge in the basement, Lisitsky recalls, laughing.
    If a dozen or so people per day came through the doors of the Dostoevsky Library before its renovation in 2013, Lisitsky says it now gets 500 daily visitors, who are drawn by its modern facilities and evening events.
    Andrei Akritov, 22, an aspiring standup comedian from out of town, says he discovered the library when he walked by and saw people reading inside.

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    Racist Congressman Steve King ‘Honors’ MLK With Fake Quote
    The Iowa Republican praised the slain civil rights leader by citing a short quote often attributed to him.



    Historians may one day point to Jan. 21, 2019, as the day irony as we know it died.

    What other reason can explain why unapologetically racist Iowa Congressman Steve King chose to tweet a tribute to the slain civil rights legend Martin Luther King Jr. on the day commemorating his birth.

    To make things more ludicrous, King’s tweet of praise included this quote attributed to King: “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”

    Problem is, King never actually said that, according to Snopes.com
    MLK’s Son Criticizes Mike Pence: My Father ‘Was a Bridge Builder, Not A Wall Builder’
    Martin Luther King III wants the vice president to know that his father would say “love, not hate, will make America great.”


    Egyptian TV Host Sentenced To Year In Prison For Interviewing Gay Man
    Mohamed al-Ghiety was found guilty of encouraging immorality amid Egypt’s crackdown on perceived homosexuality.
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    Kamala Harris: ‘I Take Full Responsibility’ For Decisions I Made As A Prosecutor
    The new presidential candidate has faced criticism from some on the left over her record as a district attorney and California’s attorney general.


    n recent weeks, Harris has faced criticism from some on the left about her record as a district attorney in San Francisco and later as California’s attorney general. In a widely shared New York Times op-ed, law professor Lara Bazelon called Harris a “regressive” prosecutor who was often on “the wrong side of history” on the matter of criminal justice reform, as well as someone who “fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful” convictions in California.

    A prominent Bay Area activist accused the senator on Twitter of “terrorizing Black communities” by working to strengthen the state’s prison system.

    In her first press conference as a presidential candidate on Monday, Harris said she took responsibility for decisions she made a prosecutor and expressed regret for not being able to do more in certain cases she was involved in.
    Black Renters In The South Are Bearing The Brunt Of America’s Eviction Crisis
    The federal government shutdown could spike eviction rates nationwide.


    Like most tenants facing eviction in Fulton County, Hicks is African-American and lacked a lawyer. She planned to tell the judge about her family’s hardships. Not only did she have a disability, reliant on government checks for rent, but she also was raising two boys who each had autism.

    Without a favorable ruling, a landlord could move forward with padlocking the door and placing their items on the curb. If she was lucky, she might get her wish of celebrating Christmas there.
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    So that the opinion piece that said article mentions doesn't get lost in the shuffle...


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/o...l-justice.html

    Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor’
    With the growing recognition that prosecutors hold the keys to a fairer criminal justice system, the term “progressive prosecutor” has almost become trendy. This is how Senator Kamala Harris of California, a likely presidential candidate and a former prosecutor, describes herself.

    But she’s not.

    Time after time, when progressives urged her to embrace criminal justice reforms as a district attorney and then the state’s attorney general, Ms. Harris opposed them or stayed silent. Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.

    Consider her record as San Francisco’s district attorney from 2004 to 2011. Ms. Harris was criticized in 2010 for withholding information about a police laboratory technician who had been accused of “intentionally sabotaging” her work and stealing drugs from the lab. After a memo surfaced showing that Ms. Harris’s deputies knew about the technician’s wrongdoing and recent conviction, but failed to alert defense lawyers, a judge condemned Ms. Harris’s indifference to the systemic violation of the defendants’ constitutional rights.

    Ms. Harris contested the ruling by arguing that the judge, whose husband was a defense attorney and had spoken publicly about the importance of disclosing evidence, had a conflict of interest. Ms. Harris lost. More than 600 cases handled by the corrupt technician were dismissed
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    Also from that opinion piece...

    Worst of all, though, is Ms. Harris’s record in wrongful conviction cases.

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    She also defended Johnny Baca’s conviction for murder even though judges found a prosecutor presented false testimony at the trial. She relented only after a video of the oral argument received national attention and embarrassed her office.

    And then there’s Kevin Cooper, the death row inmate whose trial was infected by racism and corruption. He sought advanced DNA testing to prove his innocence, but Ms. Harris opposed it. (After The New York Times’s exposé of the case went viral, she reversed her position.)
    To his credit, Jerry Brown has ordered new tests in the latter instance...

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...224-story.html

    Gov. Jerry Brown orders new tests in quadruple-murder case of death row inmate Kevin Cooper
    In the interest of not cherry picking, this is the end of the piece...

    Of course, the full picture is more complicated. During her tenure as district attorney, Ms. Harris refused to seek the death penalty in a case involving the murder of a police officer. And she started a successful program that offered first-time nonviolent offenders a chance to have their charges dismissed if they completed a rigorous vocational training. As attorney general, she mandated implicit bias training and was awarded for her work in correcting a backlog in the testing of rape kits.

    But if Kamala Harris wants people who care about dismantling mass incarceration and correcting miscarriages of justice to vote for her, she needs to radically break with her past.

    A good first step would be to apologize to the wrongfully convicted people she has fought to keep in prison and to do what she can to make sure they get justice. She should start with George Gage.
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    https://thinkprogress.org/california...-5c768fd447a4/

    From 2014.

    California Attorney General Kamala Harris told ThinkProgress Wednesday she is concerned her department created a perception that the state’s prisons have a goal of “indentured servitude.” Harris was responding to revelations that lawyers in her office argued in court without her knowledge that a program to parole more prisoners would drain the state’s source of cheap labor.

    “The way that argument played out in court does not reflect my priorities,” she said, adding that she fears state lawyers taking that position will create more distrust in the criminal justice system. Harris worried that heavily policed communities may suspect the state has an “ulterior motive,” especially when it seems “the penalty may not be proportionate to the crime.”

    “The idea that we incarcerate people to have indentured servitude is one of the worst possible perceptions,” said Harris. “I feel very strongly about that. It evokes images of chain gangs. I take it very seriously and I’m looking into exactly what needs to be done to correct it.”
    In a new chapter in California’s years-long battle over how and when to reduce the population of its unconstitutionally crowded prisons, lawyers in Harris’ division pushed back against a federal order to expand an early parole program, arguing that it would deplete their stock of prison labor, especially inmates who fight wildfires.

    Harris told Buzzfeed she was “shocked” and “very troubled” to discover this, and told ThinkProgress on Wednesday that the argument was counterproductive. “It’s important for us to be constantly vigilant in developing and nurturing relationships of trust with communities that are policed and impacted by criminal justice policy,” she said.
    “The war on drugs was a failure,” she said at a policy conference hosted by the Center for American Progress. “These so-called ‘tough on crime’ approaches have resulted in a nearly 800 percent rise in incarceration nationally. It’s just not smart to have those approaches. Instead of keeping them because of a blind adherence to tradition, we should ask, ‘What is the return on investment?’”
    Harris also said she hopes to prevent people from entering the prison system in the first place. “There’s no question there’s a school to prison pipeline,” she said. “We should have the goal of ending the pipeline, shutting it down. Let’s break it down to its discrete parts, and let’s take it on with gusto and make some progress. I’ve chosen to focus on elementary school truancy.

    Harris also praised California voters for passing a ballot initiative to reclassify several non-violent offenses from felonies to misdemeanors, which is already allowing thousands of prisoners to reduce their sentences and, in some cases, be released early. Harris said the measure will save the state $150 to 200 million dollars a year, and promises the savings will go “directly to mental health, truancy, services for victims of crime.”

    But the state’s massive prison system remains unconstitutionally overcrowded, and the current administration has blown off many deadlines set by courts to remedy the situation. Protests also continue over the state’s use of long term solitary confinement, the pepper spraying of inmates with mental illnesses, and unsanitary conditions that have led to the death of some prisoners.
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