All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!(Part II)

[Powerboy]

What’s really funny is the liberals standing on their soap boxes and acting as if Hillary was the “moral” choice. Oh the lolz.

The woman who, along with her husband and their extremely shady “Clinton Foundation”, (gee, whatever happened to that I wonder?) have been involved in more shady **** than any politician I can recall in recent memory.

The only Trump supporters who think that he’s some kind of Saint are the extreme zealots who think he can absolutely do no wrong. I didn’t vote for Trump because I think he has some sort of outstanding moral character, I voted for him because goofs on the left have been increasingly trying to establish this ridiculous “victim” culture, seem to take offense to anything and everything these days, and are more and more pushing these socialist policies to the front of their platform.

Talk about a losing strategy. Here’s a newsflash for everyone, the majority of Americans fundamentally reject socialism. Be they on the left, right or center. If Dems want to keep pushing and endorsing ridiculous **** like the Green New Deal, it will only serve to push more moderate democrats across the aisle who will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in 2020.

Unfortunately, compared to Trump, she was the moral choice. Oh, granted, not by much.

Ya know, there could be lots of things you could invoke as evidence but you had to go for the Clinton Foundation BS, a morass of conservative misrepresentation and playing on people's ignorance.

People I know who voted for Trump generally site his policies. Few of them think he's some any sort of role model or would leave their daughter in a room with him for one second. They wouldn't with Bill Clinton either. But the dichotomy between rich and poor IS becoming an extreme issue.

Actually, among younger voters, a more Socialist approach is becoming more and more popular. The problem is that younger people are the ones least likely to vote. There is also the factor that most people don't even know what Socialism is and is not and that any society that is not pure Capitalism is going to have Socialist elements. What Republicans at the top are pushing for more and more is runaway unrestrained Capitalism, Trickle-down politics and tax breaks for the wealthy, the last of which they have somehow cleverly rewritten as somehow Democrats being for higher taxes.

Most of these anti-Socialist people absolutely want Social Security, Medicare and so on. All I see is Republican leadership doing everything they can to privatize Social Security and Medicare ie. destroy it so their rich investor friends can get richer still while Democrat policies try to help people who are not rich.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

The funniest part was back a decade ago where Fox News did a post claiming Barack Obama was a socialist and ran a poll. To their dismay and anger ...more young people voted for Obama and said they favored Socialism. I laughed so hard at that. Now comically the conservatives forget that deal and think suddenly the party has became a bed of evil socialists.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

But the real evil hell is coming from the Democrats. An evil approaching that is so insane , so scary...so terrible. Yes folks....yes....COREY BOOKER IS A VEGAN and he's coming to take all the meat from the American people ! Patriots you go run to a grocery store right now and buy every meat product because President Booker wants to take the T-Bones and steaks away !





That evil meatless bastard is coming ! BWA HA HA HA....

[Malvolio]

Didn't these schmoes say essentially the same thing when Michelle Obama promoted her vegetable garden? "She couldn't make us eat our vegetables and neither will Cory Booker! So there!"

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

That all kinda sounds like the Mueller report will amount to...nothing?

The effectiveness of the Mueller report will be political more than anything else. The DOJ will not indict a sitting President. That's been pretty much common for decades. That's not changing. It ventures too far into a Constitutional grey area where the DOJ is at the mercy of the Supreme Court. It was always going to come down whether what is revealed to Congress is so damning that it compels Republicans to go rogue and join an impeachment effort. If not it will be a waste of time and the longer it's out their the less likely it turns into an impeachment imo.

It most likely needs to be immediate or else the politics of it get murky.

[Tazirai]

2020 ELECTIONS

‘He is not going to be the nominee’: Dems slam Sanders over Maduro stance
The just-announced 2020 contender declines to say whether the socialist Venezuelan dictator should go.

Florida Democrats are denouncing Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders for refusing to call Venezuelan strongman Nicolas Maduro a dictator — a politically explosive issue in the nation’s biggest swing state.

Sanders also would not say whether he considered Venezuela’s assembly leader, Juan Guaidó, as the nation’s interim president, which is the position of the United States and a majority of Latin American countries European countries.

Both of Sanders’ positions play into the hands of President Trump and the GOP, say Democrats. The president just held a rally in Miami on Monday to denounce Maduro and socialism, an appeal to the state’s growing block of Venezuelan-American voters. Many Venezuelans have flocked to the state as the country’s economy crashed and repression increased.

“He is not going to be the nominee of the Democratic Party. He has demonstrated again that he does not understand this situation,” Rep. Donna Shalala, a Miami Democrat who represents Venezuelan exiles and, told POLITICO. “I absolutely disagree with his imprecision in not saying Maduro must go.” Shalala has filed legislation aimed at helping Venezuelan immigrants.

CIA chief hints agency is working to change Venezuelan government
The US has a long and bloody history of meddling in Latin America's affairs- July 2017

The head of the CIA has suggested the agency is working to change the elected government of Venezuela and is collaborating with two countries in the region to do so.

In one of the clearest clues yet about Washington’s latest meddling in the politics of Latin America, CIA director Mike Pompeo said he was “hopeful that there can be a transition in Venezuela and we the CIA is doing its best to understand the dynamic there”.

He added: “I was just down in Mexico City and in Bogota a week before last talking about this very issue, trying to help them understand the things they might do so that they can get a better outcome for their part of the world and our part of the world.”

U.S. government breaking international law with ‘interference’ in Venezuelan politics

Russian interference in U.S. elections is child’s play compared with U.S. interference in Venezuelan elections. A particularly egregious example is the U.S.-supported coup attempt against Maduro’s predecessor Hugo Chavez in 2002.

This interference is not surprising given the well documented pattern of U.S. supported coups, coup attempts, and assassinations that has been going on for decades. See for example the online encyclopedic book “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II,” by former State Department official, the late William Blum.

Needless to say, these interventions have been in violation of international law. We should let our elected officials know that just as we are not in favor of Russian interference in our elections we should not be in favor of our interference in the elections of other nations. Hands off Venezuela.

[wjowski]

The effectiveness of the Mueller report will be political more than anything else. The DOJ will not indict a sitting President. That's been pretty much common for decades. That's not changing. It ventures too far into a Constitutional grey area where the DOJ is at the mercy of the Supreme Court. It was always going to come down whether what is revealed to Congress is so damning that it compels Republicans to go rogue and join an impeachment effort. If not it will be a waste of time and the longer it's out their the less likely it turns into an impeachment imo.

It most likely needs to be immediate or else the politics of it get murky.

Look forward to that not happening.

[Tazirai]

North Carolina elections board orders new House election after ballot tampering scandal
Voters will go back to the drawing board with new primary elections in the Ninth District after the board’s vote

[JCAll]

Look forward to that not happening.

Donald Trump could beat goats to death with the satanic bible and not a single Republican would vote to impeach.

[Tendrin]

I see we have a live one.

[Dalak]

Not sure why so many of you on the left think that every conservative is a bible-thumping Christian.

And yes, if it’s some dilapidated church that hasn’t been in service for years, yes.

Well this one isn't, in fact the small town it's in grew up around it and it's still used today. But even if that weren't the case, as ISIS will destroy religious relics and ruins they don't care about how does that make us better?

I didn’t vote for Trump because I think he has some sort of outstanding moral character, I voted for him because goofs on the left have been increasingly trying to establish this ridiculous “victim” culture, seem to take offense to anything and everything these days, and are more and more pushing these socialist policies to the front of their platform.

So you Trolled the Libs with your vote, classy. Especially given Trump's own victim culture when people report his words and the Truth beside them to show the reality, the rise in 'White Men are the most persecuted' stories and of course the 'War on Christmas'.

Keep on trollin!

[williamtheday]

Socialism in America? Not if Brad Bird has anything to say about it!

[Tendrin]

Well this one isn't, in fact the small town it's in grew up around it and it's still used today. But even if that weren't the case, as ISIS will destroy religious relics and ruins they don't care about how does that make us better?



So you Trolled the Libs with your vote, classy. Especially given Trump's own victim culture when people report his words and the Truth beside them to show the reality, the rise in 'White Men are the most persecuted' stories and of course the 'War on Christmas'.

Keep on trollin!

I am pretty LMAO off about 'victim culture' actually being invoked seriously.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Federal Prosecutors Broke Law With Plea Deal In Jeffrey Epstein Case, Judge Says

The federal prosecutors include Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, who was the U.S. attorney in Miami at the time. I'd call this a gots to go situation with Acosta.

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Rep. Steve King Plans To Seek Re-election, Won’t Apologize For Racist Remarks

The Iowa Republican told “Iowa Press” that he is unapologetic for his remarks and will still seek a 10th term. Let's continue pushing that dumbass narrative about how "both sides are just as bad", shall we? Someone show me a white supremacist Democrat running for reelection. Meanwhile....

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Alabama Newspaper Publisher Goodloe Sutton Doubles Down: ‘The KKK Are The Nicest’

The publisher, who had called for the Klan to “ride again,” also said his critics can “go to hell.” I'm sure Steve King just LOVES this asswipe of a publisher.

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Trump Responds To Jussie Smollett’s Arrest Over Alleged Hoax

“What about MAGA and the tens of millions of people you insulted with your racist and dangerous comments?!” the president tweeted. Predictably, not one tweet about Christopher Hasson, the very WHITE madman and supremacist who threatened to go on a rampage against Democrats and journalists, the so-called "enemy of the state".

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Ivanka Trump Retweets Praise Of Administration As ‘Driver For Science,’ Twitter Gags

Snarky tweets reminded the president’s daughter about White House denials of climate change. Ms. Complicit needs to stay off social media because she embarrasses herself every time she uses it.

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2015, 2016, 2017, as well as 2018, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day posted profiles of Colorado State Senator Kevin Lundberg, a Colorado State Senator and former candidate for U.S. Congress who has defended archaic laws on the books in Colorado that criminalize adultery, goes to the hilt to fight against a proposed law to defend domestic abusers' continued right to own firearms (as if they wouldn't use them against their significant others as "good guys with guns"), and framed the Aurora movie theatre mass shooting as a "right to life" issue, rather than a gun issue. Of course, he comes off as an absolute hypocrite on that issue (and many others), because for being so proud of being "pro-life", Lundberg is also opposed to public schools having mandatory vaccinations for students, and supports the death penalty. Lundberg's record on voting rights is downright appalling, as he not only supports totally unnecessary strict Voter ID laws, he has argued against creating laws to prevent "caging" schemes where perpetrators can make robo-calls or send out fliers to voters with fraudulent information that gives out false voting dates or polling places to misinform voters from the opposing party to help steal an election by keeping the other side at home. His rhetoric has also had him weigh in on birth control by saying that IUDs "stop a small child from implanting", and an insistence that Democrats are coming any day now to pry his guns from his "cold dead hands". Lundberg has voiced his support for Kentucky clerk Kim Davis refusing to do her job and sign same sex marriage certificates, as well as threw fuel on the fire as relates to Planned Parenthood, launching a series of witch hunt investigations to prove that the Center for Medical Progress’ videos were true, pro-life extremists were polarized enough against the organization that defunding it wasn't simply enough for some. Even after a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs was shot up by a pro-life terrorist all of the investigations that debunked the practices that the video purported to have uncovered, and the fact that a judge had indicted the two heads of the Center for Medical Progress for their deceitful actions... Lundberg continued to waste taxpayer dollars to launch investigations into Planned Parenthood. Y'know, until a result is reached that agrees with his version of reality about what's going on.

What Lundberg probably should have taken more care not to do in order to win, though? He should have avoided taking photos with noted Neo-Nazis at the state capitol, like he did in October of 2017. And before you ask how Kevin Lundberg could have known the man was a Neo-Nazi, you should save it, because he was literally wearing a Daily Stormer T-shirt at the time, and that’s a pretty big tip-off. Lundberg was term-limited in the 2018 elections and failed to run for any other office after briefly teasing that he might run for Colorado State Treasurer. Therefore, we will retire his profile, and go ahead and take a look at a different wacky Republican on this date instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 733-30, since this was established in July 2014.)