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    Reuters/Ispos has a poll out today as well showing that by a 20 point margin, Trump has the majority of the blame for the Government Shutdown. And that's in a poll that splits the blame between Trump and Congressional Republicans. If they are added together, it's 58% Trump/GOP blame to 31% for Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Reuters/Ispos has a poll out today as well showing that by a 20 point margin, Trump has the majority of the blame for the Government Shutdown. And that's in a poll that splits the blame between Trump and Congressional Republicans. If they are added together, it's 58% Trump/GOP blame to 31% for Democrats.
    31% about matches up with the statistical percentage of Trump Supporters, of his Base. If that number, the number of those who blame Democrats instead of Trump and/or Republicans, drops below 30%, then that is a sign of some serious erosion.

    And it is starting to happen: New polls show Americans blame Trump and the GOP for the shutdown

    According to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released Sunday, over half of Americans (53 percent) say the the president and his party should shoulder most of the blame for the closures; another 29 percent point their finger at Democrats in Congress. Just 13 percent of Americans say both sides should be held accountable as the shutdown continues to drag on.
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    What happened did Devos caught the funding for public universities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Reuters/Ispos has a poll out today as well showing that by a 20 point margin, Trump has the majority of the blame for the Government Shutdown. And that's in a poll that splits the blame between Trump and Congressional Republicans. If they are added together, it's 58% Trump/GOP blame to 31% for Democrats.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    31% about matches up with the statistical percentage of Trump Supporters, of his Base. If that number, the number of those who blame Democrats instead of Trump and/or Republicans, drops below 30%, then that is a sign of some serious erosion.

    And it is starting to happen: New polls show Americans blame Trump and the GOP for the shutdown
    It's certainly encouraging that the people are making their voices heard, the only problem is that Trump refuses to listen, or, rather, he's not listening to anyone who doesn't agree with him. While I'm sure Republicans are feeling the pressure from their constituents and the public at large, they won't lean on Trump to compromise and ease his stance because they're afraid of pissing him off and perhaps make him even more intransigent than he already is now. Polls mean nothing to Trump who only cares about what the talking heads on Faux News say about him, and they're still in his corner along with his base, and that's all he needs to continue this meaningless fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    It's certainly encouraging that the people are making their voices heard, the only problem is that Trump refuses to listen, or, rather, he's not listening to anyone who doesn't agree with him. While I'm sure Republicans are feeling the pressure from their constituents and the public at large, they won't lean on Trump to compromise and ease his stance because they're afraid of pissing him off and perhaps make him even more intransigent than he already is now. Polls mean nothing to Trump who only cares about what the talking heads on Faux News say about him, and they're still in his corner along with his base, and that's all he needs to continue this meaningless fight.
    He only watches Fox News and they've been putting on the parents and relatives of people who were killed by an undocumented immigrant, which he mentioned during his television address. I have sympathy for anyone who loses a loved one at the hands of a violent individual. But as we all know, we have far more home grown terrorists as evidenced by the slaughter of children at Sandy Hook, the 58 people killed and at least 413 wounded by bullets or shrapnel in Las Vegas. the 17 students killed in Parkland. And the thing about the Las Vegas shooting, or any shooting that involves high velocity bullets, is even the survivors suffer from horrific wounds and perhaps disabled for the rest of their life. The internal damage caused by these bullets can be very extensive. Bones shatter, organs are destroyed.

    Trump issued no declaration of emergency. And we know the NRA is one of the main reasons why.

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    Murdering non-xenophobic politicians to own the libs.

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    When you can't just ask your dad for more money:

    Federal worker forced to ration insulin because of government shutdown

    “I can’t afford to go to the ER. I can’t afford anything. I just went to bed and hoped I’d wake up,” Mallory Lorge said about her blood sugar going high.
    Heartbreaking story.
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    RCP is back from its hiatus, and Trump's numbers are FINALLY crashing hard - he is at minus 12 even with Rasmussen now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    He only watches Fox News and they've been putting on the parents and relatives of people who were killed by an undocumented immigrant, which he mentioned during his television address. I have sympathy for anyone who loses a loved one at the hands of a violent individual. But as we all know, we have far more home grown terrorists as evidenced by the slaughter of children at Sandy Hook, the 58 people killed and at least 413 wounded by bullets or shrapnel in Las Vegas. the 17 students killed in Parkland. And the thing about the Las Vegas shooting, or any shooting that involves high velocity bullets, is even the survivors suffer from horrific wounds and perhaps disabled for the rest of their life. The internal damage caused by these bullets can be very extensive. Bones shatter, organs are destroyed.

    Trump issued no declaration of emergency. And we know the NRA is one of the main reasons why.
    Another reason: Trump won't make such a declaration against WHITE men, even though scores more people have been murdered by homegrown madmen than illegal immigrants. But hey, brown skinned killers make for better bogeymen to Trump and his base than scumbags the same skin color as they.

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    When you can't just ask your dad for more money:

    Federal worker forced to ration insulin because of government shutdown



    Heartbreaking story.
    And even if such stories were to reach Trump's ears, he won't care about that either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    When you can't just ask your dad for more money:

    Federal worker forced to ration insulin because of government shutdown



    Heartbreaking story.
    Yes, heartbreaking, unless of course, you have no heart. I'll let everyone on these boards guess at whom I'm referring to here.

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    Raj Shah is gone from the WH. WBE ... Get the whistle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post

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    GOP Shrugs Off Report That Trump Concealed Details Of Putin Meetings

    “This is not a traditional president. He has unorthodox means,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said in defense of Trump. Again, Republicans would've gone berserk from rage if Obama pulled that stunt, and everyone bloody well knows it too.

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    Why is this OK with ANY American? Seriously Trump doesn't know anything about policy. And he is no expert reading people either way. A room alone with Putin there is only one person who will get played and that is trump. Putin is a calculating ex KGB spy ffs. That he would go to these lengths to hide what was discussed should be disturbing to anyone. Even if details were just classified with intelligence and policy people reading it that's fine. at least there would be some records some honest assessment other than that Putin or trump say.

    It does not benefit America for only trump and Putin to know what they talked about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidfresh512 View Post
    Why is this OK with ANY American? Seriously Trump doesn't know anything about policy. And he is no expert reading people either way. A room alone with Putin there is only one person who will get played and that is trump. Putin is a calculating ex KGB spy ffs. That he would go to these lengths to hide what was discussed should be disturbing to anyone. Even if details were just classified with intelligence and policy people reading it that's fine. at least there would be some records some honest assessment other than that Putin or trump say.

    It does not benefit America for only trump and Putin to know what they talked about.
    Actually, destroying those notes means he destroyed official records, which is a felony and high crime. Impeachable offense. Along with treason from being a Russian agent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Actually, destroying those notes means he destroyed official records, which is a felony and high crime. Impeachable offense. Along with treason from being a Russian agent.
    Yeah, Republicans don't care.

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