All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!(Part II)

[Tami]

Which is why I cringe whenever somebody (in the media or otherwise) tries to find "equivalents" of FoxNews of Breitbart on the left. They don't exist. I read somebody call Young Turks the equivalent of Breitbart, but Breitbart doesn't produce a FRACTION of the amount of friendly fire TYT does.

Daily Kos comes close to that. I think there are a few others.

[Kirby101]

I like how Republicans go "Well she lost to a newbie" ignoring that they spent over 20 years transforming her into a monster in their voters eyes, also everything else that interfered with 2016 (Her lazy polling, Russia, Bernie, People voting to 'spite the establishment', Trumps numerous violations, Veritas and The Electoral College not doing its job)

She didn't lose a fair election. She won the vote of the American people and lost a rigged election.

[Malvolio]

Daily Kos comes close to that. I think there are a few others.

Check out some of Daily Kos' recent columns about the encounter between the school kids and Diane Feinstein. They're not the FOX News or Breitbart of the left. As Paul said, no one is.

[Malvolio]

She didn't lose a fair election. She won the vote of the American people and lost a rigged election.

Well, yes, but just like Bernie losing a rigged primary, they've both been rigged the same way for decades. There's no excuse for not knowing exactly how the deck is stacked against you at this point.

[Kirby101]

Well, yes, but just like Bernie losing a rigged primary, they've both been rigged the same way for decades. There's no excuse for not knowing exactly how the deck is stacked against you at this point.

Which Primary did Sanders lose after getting the majority of votes. Or did he get more total votes in all the Primaries?
Sorry I don't buy that false equivalency. What happened in November, 2016 was a mockery of Democracy.

[numberthirty]

Which Primary did Sanders lose after getting the majority of votes. Or did he get more total votes in all the Primaries?
Sorry I don't buy that false equivalency. What happened in November, 2016 was a mockery of Democracy.

And two parties having primaries that allow, maybe, a third of eligible General Election voters to decide for all General Election voters who the realistic options will be isn't?

[Kirby101]

And two parties having primaries that allow, maybe, a third of eligible General Election voters to decide for all General Election voters who the realistic options will be isn't?

Now there is a nonsequiter thrown in.

[numberthirty]

Now there is a nonsequiter thrown in.

Sure it is.

If you are going to benefit from a setup that makes things less democratic, quit complaining about that another setup that makes things less democratic tripped you up.

[Dalak]

Now there is a nonsequiter thrown in.

Yup, since membership in either party is voluntary and free. If you want to have a say in it just put on whichever meaningless label you choose and make your voice heard.

[JCAll]

Hillary had been perceived more as a co-president than the first lady of the United States. To Bill Clinton, she was more a partner in power than a supporter, which is the role of a wife. Apparently, She doesn't pay attention to the biblical verse Ephesians 5:22, that says "Wives, obey your husbands as you obey the Lord". She is too ambitious, too conceited and too power-hungry to support her husband.

It was Hillary who had the idea to appoint Janet Reno as U.S. Attorney General. She was the first First Lady to have an office in the West Wing. With such ambitious drive and short temper, she must have driven Bill mad. No wonder Bill cheated on Hillary. She could have divorced him but she saw the name "Clinton" is more important than her dignity. Besides, Hillary is too power-hungry to quit being the First Lady of the US, so she swallowed her pride and explicitly supported Bill in front of the Senate. With Hillary's support, Bill Clinton was acquitted by the US Senate.

Republicans are not foolish enough to underestimate Hillary's political ambition or her hunger for power.

Wow. There really needs to be some sort of "It's 3am, are you sure you want to post this?" warning.

[Kirby101]

Yup, since membership in either party is voluntary and free. If you want to have a say in it just put on whichever meaningless label you choose and make your voice heard.

And since you don't have to be in either party to run. I still don't get how Bernie was robbed of the nomination the Hillary was robbed of the Presidency?

[Tendrin]

And since you don't have to be in either party to run. I still don't get how Bernie was robbed of the nomination the Hillary was robbed of the Presidency?

Because 'the DNC had its thumb on the scale!' and 'it was rigged!' are articles of faith across a subsection fo the political spectrum.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Because 'the DNC had its thumb on the scale!' and 'it was rigged!' are articles of faith across a subsection fo the political spectrum.

"Russia had its thumb on the scale"

[Tazirai]

Kamala Harris Releases Off-The-Record AIPAC Comments
The Harris campaign gave HuffPost a transcript of remarks from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference shortly after the senator was asked about them Sunday.

“You spoke to AIPAC last year and you spoke off the record,” the audience member said. “Will you be willing to make your off-the-record speech available to us?”

The audience member additionally asked if the Democratic presidential candidate was willing to support the platform of the Iowa Democratic Party, which states that the organization supports “equal rights, health, welfare for Palestinians and Israelis” and the “right of return/just compensation for displaced Palestinians.”

Harris initially responded by saying that she’d need to read the platform but that she believes “Israel is America’s friend and we should support Israel,” adding that she also believes “very strongly in a two-state solution and the need for doing everything we can to encourage that the leaders in that region move toward that end.”

[Tendrin]

"Russia had its thumb on the scale"

Remind me, how do we have those emails that told people that members of the DNC weren't big Bernie fans again?