All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!(Part II)

[numberthirty]

It's impossible to do right now, yes, but opening the discussion on whether we /should/, as a response to Republican intransigence and court packing, is an important step that recognizes the reality of what's actually going on and may actually give the GOP pause in their own court-packing scheme /if they credibly believe we would do it/.

This feels about as out of touch as "Shaming Them Might Fix It..."

You just said shaming them will do zip, but this is where they blink?

Feels kind of unlikely.

Not saying "Just Throw Your Hands Up..." Just saying that this feels like just as much of an outside chance.

[Tendrin]

This feels about as out of touch as "Shaming Them Might Fix It..."

You just said shaming them will do zip, but this is where they blink?

Feels kind of unlikely.

Not saying "Just Throw Your Hands Up..." Just saying that this feels like just as much of an outside chance.

The switch in time that saved nine did /exactly/ that in the face of similar intransigence. People hear about the 'court packing scheme' and see it as an attack on the separation of powers. I'm not going to defend it on those grounds, because it certainly was a threat, but this was the Lochnar era court, which consistantly struck down pretty much every new deal program. It was already playing a judicially activist conservative role in that regard.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

It's nonsense at the moment because one side is going 'but process' while the other doesn't give a crap about process except in so much as they can abuse it to their poltiical ends.



We're agreed to an extent here, but you're ignoring an important point about who's voters reward what behavior.



If you don't think that the Republicans won't do exactly that if the situations are reversed, you haven't been paying attention. Just like we all predicted they'd nuke the filibuster, which they are already in the process of starting.



The GOP would love this given their advantages in the Senate.

What are the chances the GOP or any party gets a 2/3rds majority in either House (let alone both) to actively veto a Presidential appointment? It's not going to happen. You'd need a bipartisan coalition to veto nearly any appointment.

[Tendrin]

What are the chances the GOP or any party gets a 2/3rds majority in either House (let alone both) to actively veto a Presidential appointment? It's not going to happen. You'd need a bipartisan coalition to veto nearly any appointment.

*looks at Trump*

*looks at this idea*

I'd also argue that's a bit too much a step towards a 'presidential system', myself.

[numberthirty]

The switch in time that saved nine did /exactly/ that in the face of similar intransigence. People hear about the 'court packing scheme' and see it as an attack on the separation of powers. I'm not going to defend it on those grounds, because it certainly was a threat, but this was the Lochnar era court, which consistantly struck down pretty much every new deal program, and was already playing a judicially activist conservative role in that regard.

Man, maybe back in the day...

In the here and now? Some folks are voting with that end in mind.

I'm not really seeing either side wanting a legitimately independent Judicial Branch.

[PaulBullion]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/14/p...voting-age-16/

Speaker Pelosi expressed support for lowering the voting age to 16. Rep. Ayanna Pressley joins Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss the amendment she introduced on the voting issue.

Are they kidding. Most 18-year old people are still dependent on their parents, don't have full-time jobs and do not pay taxes. Now they want to lower the voting age to 16?

Why not go further and only allow people who own land to vote? That would show them.

[PaulBullion]

The biggest check on the Judicial Branch of government is the fact that we allow Presidents to appoint them and Congress to approve them. Their check is the lifetime appointments so that they can be seperated from the influence of politics.

Tell that to Merrick Garland.

[PaulBullion]

Do we have an update yet on whether Sander's near-fatal head injury in the shower means that he has a life threatening kind of brain disease?

[PaulBullion]

Do people here agree with the young Sanders supporter who accused Chelsea Clinton of being responsible for the New Zealand massacre at a wake for its victims?

[PaulBullion]

Classy:

[zinderel]

Classy:

Color me shocked that a Trump supporter has no idea what compassion or decency are...

[PaulBullion]

Far-right Australian senator blames New Zealand attack on Muslim immigrants
Fraser Anning has a history of inflammatory remarks, but this one stands out.

A teenager just cracked an egg on the back of Australian Senator Fraser Anning's head, who immediately turned around and punched him in the face.

And there is video:

https://twitter.com/Henry_Belot/stat...90914414919681

[PwrdOn]

Color me shocked that a Trump supporter has no idea what compassion or decency are...

Given the current political climate, you're better off not coloring yourself anything...

[PaulBullion]

Do we have an update yet on whether Sander's near-fatal head injury in the shower means that he has a life threatening kind of brain disease?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Despite Crackdowns, White Supremacist And Neo-Nazi Videos Take Stubborn Root On YouTube

The ideas in a treatise by Brenton Tarrant, the alleged gunman responsible for the massacres at two New Zealand mosques, are also circulating on many of the world’s most popular social media platforms.

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Donald Trump: ‘I Don’t Really’ See A Rise In White Nationalism



A white nationalist is a suspect in the New Zealand mosque attack that left dozens dead. Well, of course Caramel Caligula is sighting blindness when it comes to white nationalists, the votes of those assholes helped get him elected, and he can't afford to piss them off prior to next year's election.

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Facebook Monitoring Failure Helped Spread Christchurch Hate Around The World

Company’s touted policing system was no match for a live-streamed video and dedicated right-wing extremists.

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CNN’s Jim Acosta: ‘The White House Can’t Whitewash The White Nationalism’

The CNN reporter compared the language in the manifesto of the alleged gunman in the New Zealand mosque shootings to that used by Donald Trump.

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Washington Post Editorial Board Condemns Donald Trump’s Response To Mosque Shootings

The president’s response to the Christchurch attack was “the wrong message,” the newspaper said. Well, wrong messages is what Dolt45 specializes in after all.

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