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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Bush probably didn’t win the first time around and he still won re-election
    Bush won a close election. Subsequent investigations established that the Supreme Court decision likely didn't make a difference.

    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...re#post1725850

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    why? he barely won the first time around. he wouldn't have hatred of Hillary working for him or the benefit of no record (ex. failed campaign promises). the DNC literally threw away their lead.
    He does have some stuff going for him.

    Incumbents typically win reelection, especially when their party has been in the White House for only one term (Jimmy Carter is the only President whose party was kicked out of the White House after just one term in the last 120 years.)

    When he ran the first time around, Republicans were suspicious that a guy who was a registered Democrat during the George W Bush presidency might be a secret liberal. Now he has a conservative record on things that matter to the party faithful (judges, taxes, regulatory overreach) in addition to his existing fan-base.

    His approval rating was relatively consistent in the low-40s, which was always enough to be credible against a flawed opponent (IE- a Democrat painted as wanting to allow employer-funded health insurance.) And that was before the Mueller report removed some of the worse-case scenarios from voters' minds.

    A recent political trend is that Democrats have stopped dominating in special elections, which suggests that what happened in the midterms doesn't necessarily prove that voters want Democrats want voters in charge.

    https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/20...lection-magic/

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ection-1230495

    Consumer confidence is also high. 71 percent think the economy's in good shape.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trum...2020-democrats

    There have been no major crises. And Democrats are taking some unpopular positions (in favor of late-term abortion, etc.) heading into the next presidential race.

    There are a lot of unknowns. The Southern District US Attorneys might find something, as could the New York Attorney General. Trump might react poorly to some kind of national crisis. A Democratic presidential candidate could navigate through the divides in the primary, and avoid taking positions that freak out the center or alienate major voting constituencies. But it's certainly possible for an incumbent President to win a second term, especially when he just got good news following an investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    No.

    I could write out how the next ten posts go here. Whatever extended semantic rabbit hole you want to take this down, it will never end up at a place where "Trump called Mexicans murderers and rapists" is a radical interpretation of the verbatim statement.
    The goalpost wasn't "Trump called Mexicans murderers and rapists." It was "Trump called all Mexicans murderers and rapists."

    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Well, Avenatti is in big doo doo now.

    Trump got his distraction.
    This is probably one of his happiest days.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Graham is now pinning the Mueller Report on McCain.

    FYI.
    He said McCain did the right thing.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.9c94dbf270f2

    Do you have another link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The goalpost wasn't "Trump called Mexicans murderers and rapists." It was "Trump called all Mexicans murderers and rapists."
    Thats the same bullshit as "Well you see the Alt-right arent Nazis because their not from Germany in the 40s"

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    According to a Fox News poll both Biden and Sanders would defeat Trump if the election were held today. And that’s coming from a most definitely biased poll.

    https://thehill.com/campaign-polls/4...-fox-news-poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    According to a Fox News poll both Biden and Sanders would defeat Trump if the election were held today. And that’s coming from a most definitely biased poll.

    https://thehill.com/campaign-polls/4...-fox-news-poll
    In other words, almost anyone but Biden and Sanders.
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    Turns out that Avenatti’s co-conspirator was also a CNN legal contributor and...Jussie Smollet’s lawyer.

    You can’t make this stuff up

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    Thats the same bullshit as "Well you see the Alt-right arent Nazis because their not from Germany in the 40s"
    Not quite. There was a very specific claim, and I'm guessing this distinction was intentional.

    There are ways to respond to a specific claim and noting the problems with it. But it is factually correct to say that Trump never claimed that all Mexicans are rapists.

    I understand exaggeration is common in arguments about politics, but it usually doesn't make anyone look reasonable and informed if they're saying something that's clearly wrong, even if there is arguably an underlying truth. It's better to just articulate the underlying truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    According to a Fox News poll both Biden and Sanders would defeat Trump if the election were held today. And that’s coming from a most definitely biased poll.

    https://thehill.com/campaign-polls/4...-fox-news-poll
    Biden would win.

    Sanders wins the popular vote by three, which might not be enough to win the electoral college.

    Warren and Harris both lose the popular vote.

    Another obvious point is that the election won't be held today. It'll be after a general election campaign and greater scrutiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Well, Avenatti is in big doo doo now.

    Trump got his distraction.
    Jeez... Yeah.

    This guy is trying to give DMX a run for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    Thats the same bullshit as "Well you see the Alt-right arent Nazis because their not from Germany in the 40s"
    I call it the "some, I assume, are good people" deflection.

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    Trump maybe circulating a shit memo where TV reporters will laugh at him more , but McConnell is now blocking the Mueller Report from going out. So ...yeah folks...there is something there they don't want seen. Hopefully the House sends a middle finger and goes...fuck you turtle boy ...we want that report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    Trump maybe circulating a shit memo where TV reporters will laugh at him more , but McConnell is now blocking the Mueller Report from going out. So ...yeah folks...there is something there they don't want seen. Hopefully the House sends a middle finger and goes...fuck you turtle boy ...we want that report.
    The house already voted 420-0 to make the entire report public but it doesn't matter since the senate was never going to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimmerian View Post
    - Pulled out of TPP
    - Pulled out of the ridiculous Paris Accords deal
    - Banished the Obamacare mandate
    - Tax reform (which despite what CNN may tell you, benefits tons of lower and middle class Americans. I’m not close to rich and it’s benefitted myself and my family)
    - Established real progressive dialogue with NK (Obama would’ve won a Nobel prize for this)
    - ISIS has been all but eliminated during his presidency
    - Signed a new NAFTA deal that is much more beneficial for America
    - Criminal Justice Reform


    I’d say he’s accomplished a fair bit in two years. Has he made good on every promise? No, not really. But I’d love for someone to show me a president who has.
    Ok, that seems like a solid list. Let's look at your first one.
    Question: With China establishing trade routes throughout the entire hemisphere and seeking out new trade agreements with nations along those routes, explain how America pulling out of the TPP is a good thing.
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    https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/s...39754527281153

    The DOJ’s letter in the affordable care act case in the Fifth Circuit.

    https://twitter.com/JoshDorner/statu...44715000406016

    �� �� �� BREAKING: DOJ calls for total invalidation of the ENTIRE Affordable Care Act. This is actually an escalation of their previous position, which only argued for the invalidation of pre-existing condition and other consumers protections.
    https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status...46984748134400

    The same DOJ that decided there was nothing to that obstruction of justice business has also decided that Obamacare is invalid.

    Like, the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    Ok, that seems like a solid list. Let's look at your first one.
    Question: With China establishing trade routes throughout the entire hemisphere and seeking out new trade agreements with nations along those routes, explain how America pulling out of the TPP is a good thing.
    Its good for Xi Jinping.

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