Your DC-Only controversial opinions (part II)...

[Aahz]

I'm not an avid Jason fan so I'm a little on the outside looking in here, but in my experience it does feel like DC wants him to be the edgy anti-hero...but still safe enough to be welcome in the Bat Cave. And I don't especially care for it.

I think they have just over done it with making him "safe".

I mean there are plenty of examples where they had Batman or other Family members team up with more anti-heroic characters, were it worked without a problem and without taking away their edge. Like Batman and Ghostmaker (or even Catwoman), Dick with Tiger or Midnighter, or how Huntress was often written before she joined the BoP.

I think even Jason's team up with the Outsiders in the recent One Shot, is a good example how you could do it properly.


But usually when he is arround the Batfamily the writers never really let him do anything morally ambiguous, or really any thing lets him shine. He is usually mostly used as jobber or comic relief, or to make other characters look good by comparison.
And that's imo damaging the character on the long run.

[Astralabius]

Well that at least gives some more hope for his new run, Wonder Woman basically needed someone with enough power to get the editor fired since decades by now

Wonder Woman needs someone who knows how to write women and King has a track record of doing a terrible job at that.

[Agent Z]

If Diana walks away from humanity that says more about them than her.

[Aahz]

Well that at least gives some more hope for his new run, Wonder Woman basically needed someone with enough power to get the editor fired since decades by now

Which would only help if they would hire a competent editor as replacement, which is not likely.

[superduperman]

Flash's origin should be the one from the 1990 TV show. Where he had both a father and a brother who were cops and neither one knew he was Flash. And both his parents were still alive.

[MajorHoy]

Flash's origin should be the one from the 1990 TV show. Where he had both a father and a brother who were cops and neither one knew he was Flash. And both his parents were still alive.

Geoff Johns already screwed up Barry's origin; don't need another unnecessary change to it.

[Stanlos]

Flash's origin should be the one from the 1990 TV show. Where he had both a father and a brother who were cops and neither one knew he was Flash. And both his parents were still alive.

I really enjoyed that show or at least certain aspects which were NOT the neon colors and the Casio music.

I feel like for a while a number of writers were on the every villain needs to have an intimate personal history with the villain. I say thee nay.

[Tomkatie]

Flash's origin should be the one from the 1990 TV show. Where he had both a father and a brother who were cops and neither one knew he was Flash. And both his parents were still alive.

Disagree, personally. The 1990 show's Henry Allen felt like every negative cop trait all rolled into one toxic father figure. Doctor Henry Allen is a much more sympathetic character

[MajorHoy]

Disagree, personally. The 1990 show's Henry Allen felt like every negative cop trait all rolled into one toxic father figure. Doctor Henry Allen is a much more sympathetic character

Is that the pre-Geoff Johns Henry Allen who wasn't charged with murdering his wife Nora or post-Flash: Rebirth Henry Allen who was framed for Nora's murder?

[Tomkatie]

Is that the pre-Geoff Johns Henry Allen who wasn't charged with murdering his wife Nora or post-Flash: Rebirth Henry Allen who was framed for Nora's murder?

Honestly either one's better than 1990s Henry "real police work means turning the town upside down and kicking butts until someone tells you what you want to know" Allen.

It worked in the show's context of emphasizing how much Henry's parenting affected Barry and how different their approaches were, but it is not a characterization I ever need to see again

[skyvolt2000]

Which would only help if they would hire a competent editor as replacement, which is not likely.

You could say that about a LOT of books.

[Stanlos]

In this era, was Fire ever a Brasilian government secret operative, a magazine model, a cam model, and an operative of CHECKMATE?

[OptimusPrime114]

As with any popular franchise, there will always be fans who have unpopular opinions, whether it's the direction of the stories, the portrayal of the characters, how certain concepts were executed, etc. If you have any unpopular opinions regarding the DC Universe, feel free to post them onto here. Let me start by posting my unpopular opinions.

1. Marison Leone, Red Cloud and the Invisible Mafia itself are not only some of the worst concepts ever introduced by Brian Michael Bendis in the Superman mythos, they're also some of the most redundant. If you want stories with Superman tackling organized crime, we have Intergang for that. I also strongly dislike how it was revealed that Marisol was the true owner of the Daily Planet and I strongly dislike Red Cloud's backstory which painted S.T.A.R. Labs as bad actors involved in her transformation into a supervillain as well as xenophobic attitudes towards Superman and other Kryptonians, telling them to go into outer space and never come back, blaming them for Metropolis society's problems.

2. Fear State/Future State is one of the worst DCU events ever written, because they introduced the concepts of The Magistrate and his team of shady privatized security forces; Simon Saint; the hypocritical cop-turned-mayor Chris Nakano who has a hateboner for masked heroes and villains, dismissing them as being one and the same, while he's been involved with Task Force Z and Arkham Tower, which turned out to be under the control of Psycho-Pirate; Miracle Molly and her crew which are basically every radical leftist's wet dream, and of course Deb Donovan, a Lois Lane wannabe who's a knee-jerk liberal who actually tried to have Batman killed.

3. General Sam Lane being depicted as a Superman hater and hater of all things Kryptonian makes no sense to me, and don't give me any Devil's Advocate BS about how it's his job to protect his country from any potential threat. To me, Sam Lane is, has been, and always will be a disgrace to the uniform, or did you forget that it was under his orders that New Krypton, and its population with it was destroyed? If it were up to me, I'd have Sam Lane as one of Superman's allies in the U.S. government and military as a sort of anti-Thaddeus Ross, where he embraces superheroes and recognizes them as allies rather than potential threats.

4. The DCAU version of Amanda Waller is probably one of the few incarnations of the character, if not the ONLY one, that I can actually respect. Sure, she started out as the typical shady government operative with an unnecessary distrust towards superheroes (I HATED the Justice Lords story arc), but at least unlike her comic and movie counterparts, she was actually brave and smart enough to recognize that she was in the wrong regarding Project Cadmus and their agenda, realizing that the world needs heroes and that playing nice with them is more beneficial than detrimental. By the way, what did ever happen to King Faraday in the DCAU?

5. Blue Beetle: Graduation Day was one of the worst Blue Beetle stories ever written. Don't get me wrong, I like the concepts of Yellow, Green and even Red Beetles, as well the Horizon. However, between the left-wing creation that is Fadeaway (a non-binary character with socialist leanings) and the canon immigration debut of Victoria Kord being depicted as a not completely evil (yet) but still totally unlikeable corporate type a la Lex Luthor or Veronica Cale, as well as portraying Ted Kord as an incompetent hero, I came to really dislike this story.

6. Any DC story in which superheroes are demonized by the general public, law enforcement, the media or by the government is a no-go for me. Those type of stories are what I would expect from Marvel Comics, as they're known for the whole "world outside your window" BS they keep pushing. But DC? No. It should be the opposite. These heroes didn't spend years fighting against evil, fighting against dangerous threats to the world, universe or multiverse, even DYING to save people just so they can be crapped on by people who don't understand who they are, what they are, or what they've been through in their lives. Just because it's "realistic" doesn't mean I have to like it nor should I accept it. This isn't Watchmen, the Authority or The Boys.

7. Superboy (Jon Kent) was ruined as a character after they aged him up. I don't like that he's mostly been written by left-wing activists posing as comic book writers, which explains his unforeseen coming out as bisexual (with no prior evidence of attraction towards men) with a terrorist boyfriend (Jay Nakamura is an *******!) and his blatant disrespect for elders who are NOT his parents (he actually said "do better" to Batman!). Personally, I liked Jon Kent better when he was just a kid, because aging him up in the main DCU through unforeseen BS instead of telling stories of an older Jon in alternate Earths doesn't feel right to me.

Disagree with me if you wish, but all I ask that you respect mine.

[Korath]

So basically a right-winger rant. Nothing to see here, the snowflake will melt itself folks

[Morgoth]

Superboy (Jon Kent) was ruined as a character after they aged him up.

Well, it's not really unpopular opinion, considering, that you can see people complaining about that everyday.