Reading List (Super behind but reading them nonetheless):
DC: Currently figuring that out
Marvel: Read above
Image: Killadelphia, Nightmare Blog
Other: The Antagonist, Something is Killing the Children, Avatar: TLAB
Manga: My Hero Academia, MHA: Vigilanties, Soul Eater: the Perfect Edition, Berserk, Hunter X Hunter, Witch Hat Atelier, Kaiju No. 8
Reading List (Super behind but reading them nonetheless):
DC: Currently figuring that out
Marvel: Read above
Image: Killadelphia, Nightmare Blog
Other: The Antagonist, Something is Killing the Children, Avatar: TLAB
Manga: My Hero Academia, MHA: Vigilanties, Soul Eater: the Perfect Edition, Berserk, Hunter X Hunter, Witch Hat Atelier, Kaiju No. 8
Her IP hasn't been used well because she is Superman lite. Everybody knows who's Wonder Woman, but at the end of the day, everyone knows her as Superman lite.
Yes, there is some gender bias in executives believing that females can't be leads, but that's at most about 10% of it, cause then otherwise we wouldn't have had movies like Laura Croft, Resident Evil, Underworld, Kill Bill, etc. Yes, the male/female ratio for female leads is severely unbalanced, but at the end of the day that's because women are in fact generally non violent.
It's really not a sexist thing as most people make it out to be. At the end of the day, sales is all that big executives are looking at, not some prejudice to keep women out of media, otherwise Underworld & Resident Evil among others female led films wouldn't have had a franchise to begin with.
It's really not. She has the lasso, she has the sword of athena, God killer sword, and a bunch of other magical artifacts.Captain America strength is WAY too low. No way she beats Superman with that level of power. That's fair for the other Amazons who gain it through training, but not her.
Make it clear that the Amazons have superhuman reflexes (hence them being able to deflect bullets), and she literally has thousands of ways counter Superman.
And as I said, the best thing they can do is make it as that Diana can remove her bracelets to get even stronger than Superman. Boom. Diana creates her own identity apart from Superman, while also being able to be on par with Superman when she really wants to.
Cause at the end of the day, as much as some fans might like to deny it, street level characters are just much more relatable and easier to write. That's should not be a controversial subject at all like some people make it out to be. Batman finding a way to stop a train is much more suspenseful than Superman stopping a train.
If that is the case, why is this argument being made for Diana and not Clark?
Both Diana and Carol Danvers managed to get a successful movie without being depowered to street level. Clearly this is not a requirement to make a character popular. If it were, the Catwoman and Elektra movies would have been smash hits instead of convenient scape goats used to excuse not making female superhero movies for years.
If anything Diana is less Superman lite now than she was in the Golden Age when she had a secret identity that was a bespectacled, overlooked milquetoast like Clark and had a two person love triangle with Steve Trevor. If being a female Superman with a sword is hindering her, making her female Spider-Man with a lasso won't automatically improve her station. As if there aren't numerous street level characters that also fail to catch an audience. The only thing a powered up Diana has in common with Clark is being a flying brick which he doesn't have a patent on.
Also, they already did depower Diana once in the 60s. It wasn't well received back then and even the writer of that story arc looked back on it with embarrassment.
Last edited by Agent Z; 09-21-2020 at 01:41 PM.
Look, what i said had zero to do with power levels. Powerlevels are malleable, relative things and on top of that every action based hero/heroine suffers from escalation problem unless you are one punch man. My suggestion has more to do with presentation.Making her spiderman is'nt the objective. It's to make her movements dynamic. As said, gliding on air currents or using lasso to swing on lighting is very creative. When has spiderman ever swung on literal lightning. Moreover, tarzan was the original one to swing on things. Superman used to run on electric cables and cling on wall. The guys power explanation was literally based on bugs and insects. So,concepts will always have some co-relations and similarities.
I don't believe there are many superhero characters that use a crown and rope as weapons. Maybe in old westerns.The actual weapon used matters.The guy who swings hammer is thor, not captain america.
Last edited by manwhohaseverything; 09-21-2020 at 02:24 PM.
Or they are spending the money but it's not being measured.
You can't measure Ebay, Amazon market, Kickstarter or Half Price books sales.
You can't measure folks finding ways to be CHEAP.
Let say you want the digital and your friend wants the printed issue of say Miles Morales. You alternate each month buying it.
If I sit back and wait I can go to Half Price Books and get Batman family Rebirth's run for 50-90% off the cover price.
Now you can't do this with say Moon Girl, Wonder Twins and a few others but books like Batman-you can.
I have seen too many new books on Wednesday at Half Price by the weekend.
Don't get me started on Movie Trading Post. Whoever comic book stores they get those books from has no business being a store.
There are folks MAD that a certain Lantern is not in Justice League and they get mad about it EVERYTIME he is off the team mainly when that OTHER guy is there.Having 10 Lanterns wouldn't matter if you had somewhere to put them.
Mind you that certain Lantern has since 2011 13 trades starring HIM alone. No GLC no costars. HIM. The OTHER guy has ZERO. ZERO. He has been DEN MOTHER for GLC.
That is being PETTY to the highest of all degrees. That is X-Men/Inhuman level pettiness.
You can't cry about ANYTHING. 60+ YEARS of stuff about your favorite. That other one couldn't even get a solo variant cover for the anniversary. His one series will NEVER see trade or digital.
But we gotta see PETTINESS.
Who is actually saying this and where? You're saying this as if it's a fact, when it isn't.
Because when her IP is actually used well, like the movie, people turn up and don't draw the comparison. Even when the movie used glasses wearing Diana Prince, an ID that is a holdover from an attempt to make her more like him.
Last edited by SiegePerilous02; 09-21-2020 at 02:05 PM.
But the Amazon's as originally conceived WERE God level. They could laugh at Gods from all pantheons. And Diana literally was conceived as wielding a Dominant Force and was the ONLY hero with that concept from jump.
In strength and speed where she relates to other heroes is present in her design. When you review the processing of the patent for her this becomes even clearer.
You are quite right. The prediction of this phenomenon is also well documented. The publisher called out that such a thing would happen--resent and resistance among many boys--and did so decades ago. In many ways, her design is still very much ahead of its time still, 75 years later.