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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    It’s the tacticool aesthetic I object to, not armor per say. I don’t like the militarization of superheroes, I don’t think that’s a good route to go down. And the Asylum/City Batsuit looked waaaaaaay better than the Origins or Knight Batsuits imo.
    I don't think more protective gear is necessarily militarization (I associate that more with the Batmobile having guns and missiles) since such clothing is more about defense than offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    The Brave and the Bold/DC Comics Presents need to come back as anthology team-ups (ideally without an anchor character like Batman or Superman, but I know better). It'd be digital only, but team-ups are sorely missing in the age of writing for trade. I miss them terribly.
    I wholeheartedly agree .

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    I think solos that are not the Trinity are done and anthologies team ups looking at different parts of the verse are the way with this omniverse

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    It makes more sense to just say everything that seems like confusing canon as alternate timelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    It makes more sense to just say everything that seems like confusing canon as alternate timelines.
    We agree. I miss E2, and don't think it was a fraction of the problem TPTB seemed to think it in the early 1980s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewGod View Post
    We agree. I miss E2, and don't think it was a fraction of the problem TPTB seemed to think it in the early 1980s.
    I think that was always their scapegoat, when the real issue was that DC's characters were seen as more childish and receiving outdated writing so they weren't as appealing as Marvel which was aiming for an older audience. The "confusing" Multiverse got part of the blame when it didn't really warrant it, IMO.

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    The Heckler could have been DC's answer to Deadpool.

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    Each Earth should only have one set of Mythological Gods. Earth-01: Greek Mythology. Earth-02: Roman Mythology. And so on.

    All the new ideas/characters DC wants to do should be on a separate Earth with a logo showing that all this crap is happening on Earth-724. That way when it fails, they can just destroy or ignore the earth. If it's a success (which it won't be) they can make it the new Earth-Prime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen Pain View Post
    The Heckler could have been DC's answer to Deadpool.
    Loved the Heckler!
    Being a "Person of Interest" doesn't make you an interesting person.

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    Jaime is a more viable solo Blue Beetle than Ted. I love Ted, but he worked best as part of a duo or team-up. As a solo hero, he really has very little to offer that you can't get better elsewhere. If we're getting a new Blue Beetle series, Jaime has more to work with.

    Modern DC should never split to multiple Earths again because it just enables them to use the alternate Earths as torture/disaster porn, a la Earth 2. If you like any characters, until proven otherwise, the only way they have a chance at getting respect is staying on an Earth with Batman because DC can't mess that up too bad if they want to have jobs tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Jaime is a more viable solo Blue Beetle than Ted. I love Ted, but he worked best as part of a duo or team-up. As a solo hero, he really has very little to offer that you can't get better elsewhere. If we're getting a new Blue Beetle series, Jaime has more to work with.

    Modern DC should never split to multiple Earths again because it just enables them to use the alternate Earths as torture/disaster porn, a la Earth 2. If you like any characters, until proven otherwise, the only way they have a chance at getting respect is staying on an Earth with Batman because DC can't mess that up too bad if they want to have jobs tomorrow.
    The main Earth is already a torture/disaster porn hot spot. To the point that DC goes through an obnoxious cycle of addressing how there is so much misery and darkness in it and then going back to doing the exact same thing they were being criticized for. Being on an Earth with Batman didn't save Ryan Choi from getting killed off, Roy Harper from being maimed and losing his daughter, Hal Jordan and Cassandra Cain from going evil, Diana from suffering Amazons Attack etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    The main Earth is already a torture/disaster porn hot spot. To the point that DC goes through an obnoxious cycle of addressing how there is so much misery and darkness in it and then going back to doing the exact same thing they were being criticized for. Being on an Earth with Batman didn't save Ryan Choi from getting killed off, Roy Harper from being maimed and losing his daughter, Hal Jordan and Cassandra Cain from going evil, Diana from suffering Amazons Attack etc.
    Absolutely true. And it apparently sells, giving them reason to keep on keeping on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Jaime is a more viable solo Blue Beetle than Ted. I love Ted, but he worked best as part of a duo or team-up. As a solo hero, he really has very little to offer that you can't get better elsewhere. If we're getting a new Blue Beetle series, Jaime has more to work with.

    Modern DC should never split to multiple Earths again because it just enables them to use the alternate Earths as torture/disaster porn, a la Earth 2. If you like any characters, until proven otherwise, the only way they have a chance at getting respect is staying on an Earth with Batman because DC can't mess that up too bad if they want to have jobs tomorrow.
    I agree with the first part in regards to Blue Beetle but for the second I think Ted would actually find a decent niche from Jamie if he and the other Charlton characters existed in their own world (like the JSA vs. JL pre-Crisis). Though I agree modern alternate universe/parallel Earth stories where the constrictions of the main continuity don't apply tend to allow not-so great writers to indulge themselves (Injustice, the later New 52 Earth-2 series, DCeased).

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    A lot of Superman fans don't actually understand what the word, "Conservative" means in a political context. Like how certain people use the words, "fascist", "mary sue" and "grimdark", Superman fans have taken to using "conservative" to mean something they don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    A lot of Superman fans don't actually understand what the word, "Conservative" means in a political context. Like how certain people use the words, "fascist", "mary sue" and "grimdark", Superman fans have taken to using "conservative" to mean something they don't like.
    Kind of jumping off this but also it seems every issue of Superman that isn't on the level of Watchmen seems to be treated like it doesn't have a purpose for existing. Though to be fair high expectations aren't something restricted to just Superman fans, think I've lost count of the amount of times WW fans won't shut up about for whatever her DKR is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    The main Earth is already a torture/disaster porn hot spot. To the point that DC goes through an obnoxious cycle of addressing how there is so much misery and darkness in it and then going back to doing the exact same thing they were being criticized for. Being on an Earth with Batman didn't save Ryan Choi from getting killed off, Roy Harper from being maimed and losing his daughter, Hal Jordan and Cassandra Cain from going evil, Diana from suffering Amazons Attack etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    Absolutely true. And it apparently sells, giving them reason to keep on keeping on.
    Sure, the main Earth is usually in bad shape, but nothing like what they let happen to New 52 Earth 2. Didn't that place detonate twice in three years? Sure, Ryan and the like do die and I hate that, but if you think he'd be safer on Earth 2, you're mistaken. It's a wash at best.

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