Your DC-Only controversial opinions (part II)...

[Thomas Crown]

Despite all his faults, I would take Dan Didio over the current editorial leadership any time. Yes, there was bad books and bad editorial decisions under his tenure. But, overall, the good outweighed the bad. I mean, just take a look at current sales numbers and the amount of mediocre, boring or outright BAD comics released since Marie Javins took over.

[Timber Wolf-By-Night]

Despite all his faults, I would take Dan Didio over the current editorial leadership any time. Yes, there was bad books and bad editorial decisions under his tenure. But, overall, the good outweighed the bad. I mean, just take a look at current sales numbers and the amount of mediocre, boring or outright BAD comics released since Marie Javins took over.

Utter and complete disagreement. Under Didio, the bad not only completely dwarfed the good, it ate the good and shat it all over the place like a bad case of diarrhea. Didio's every last decision was driven solely by whether he personally liked a character, book, or creator, and not once by what was truly good for business. He sought to destroy or squelch any true creativity in favor of forcing a single tone on everything.

The overwhelming majority of comics produced during his reign, especially the New 52, are only good for when I run out of toilet paper during the next pandemic.

[j9ac9k]

Despite all his faults, I would take Dan Didio over the current editorial leadership any time. Yes, there was bad books and bad editorial decisions under his tenure. But, overall, the good outweighed the bad. I mean, just take a look at current sales numbers and the amount of mediocre, boring or outright BAD comics released since Marie Javins took over.

Disagree. I'm reading a lot more DC books now than I have in the past ... ten years.

[CaptCleghorn]

DC needs to take the Legion and JSA and give them Black Label books (I'd call them GOML {get off my lawn} books). Use traditional versions with modern story telling techniques but don't fit them in with other series. The regular DC Universe would have whatever version DC feel like publishing that week.

[comicstar100]

Red Hood should go full on Punisher Max murdering all bad guys he sees and and stay away from the bat family. He shouldn't even be near Gotham.

New 52 Earth 2 should of permanently become the main JSA and had annual team ups with the JLA

Damian Wayne and Jon Kent should be from a possible future and not part of the main line continuity.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Red Hood should go full on Punisher Max murdering all bad guys he sees and and stay away from the bat family. He shouldn't even be near Gotham.

New 52 Earth 2 should of permanently become the main JSA and had annual team ups with the JLA

Damian Wayne and Jon Kent should be from a possible future and not part of the main line continuity.

Having the New 52 take be an alternate present day would be cool. If DC ever does an Ultimate line, that might be a good type of setting for it.

[HsssH]

Disagree. I'm reading a lot more DC books now than I have in the past ... ten years.

What are you reading?

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Im hoping Absolute DC is a reinvention like Gods and Monsters and Just imagine.

Another DC reboot wouldnt really interest me after new 52 and Earth One. Future state had the right angle and i felt most of those additions would've been better off seperate from the main DCU.

[DanMad1977]

I would only buy DC books (with some exceptions here and there) if DC starts an ultimate universe.

I can't keep track anymore.

[Timber Wolf-By-Night]

An Ultimate DC universe is the absolute (no pun intended) LAST damned thing I would waste money on. It's an utterly idiotic idea and I don't understand people's fascination with it. Any idea that Wizard magazine supported should meet only response: "F*** that!"

[marhawkman]

An Ultimate DC universe is the absolute (no pun intended) LAST damned thing I would waste money on. It's an utterly idiotic idea and I don't understand people's fascination with it. Any idea that Wizard magazine supported should meet only response: "F*** that!"

writing it as a different world in the multiverse is something I think is a great idea. In the old days we had Earth 1 Earth 2... and a whole bunch of weirder takes.

[Laser_Man]

DC Comics reached its peak in the 1980s and 1990s for almost every character.

Last 25 years have been largely awful for DC, so much so that mediocre works get praised to the moon. And I don't see this improving. Anyone wanting to experience DC Comics should stick to back issues. Current comics are just for completionists and people obsessed with lore and power scaling.

[skyvolt2000]

Despite all his faults, I would take Dan Didio over the current editorial leadership any time. Yes, there was bad books and bad editorial decisions under his tenure. But, overall, the good outweighed the bad. I mean, just take a look at current sales numbers and the amount of mediocre, boring or outright BAD comics released since Marie Javins took over.

What world changing event did Dan face during the early part of his term? Dan didn't have to deal with this much butchering of staff and funding like Javins.

How many fans took issue with who was hired and who was on the cover to the levels that is going on now?

Are those really bad books or is it an issue with who the talent and who is on the cover?

Funny all the sudden all these books are bad according mainly by folks who NEVER read them.

Dan was worst when it came to certain characters.

Guess what we are still dealing with the damage to most of them. A lot of the issues of today were from the seeds planted under Dan's watch.


As for sales-when you only look at CERTAIN stores and ignore the concept of a store only ordering enough copies to sell and not collect dust on the shelves. The numbers look so-called bad.

Stores are not going to keep ordering books to inflate numbers and the ones that do have ZERO right to complain about unsold books.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

An Ultimate DC universe is the absolute (no pun intended) LAST damned thing I would waste money on. It's an utterly idiotic idea and I don't understand people's fascination with it. Any idea that Wizard magazine supported should meet only response: "F*** that!"

By Ultimate DC, they just mean DC with a reboot. I dont mind a reboot as they could provide a clean slate/fresh take but DC has failed with them outside of Earth One. Unless 5th time's the charm, my hopes arent very high.

I liked the future state additions and felt they would work better outside the current DCU. So i felt they'd be better served as the focus of Absolute DC.

[All Star Superman]

Here we go:

DC has been on life support since Dan DiDio and Bob Harras arrived in the early 2000s and began wounding the DCU but trying to make it like Marvel. Though this also happened after COIE, the heart of the DCU was preserved by people who knew and respected the lore.

DiDo and Diane Nelson mortally-wounded DC Comics with The New 52. Rebirth was life support that could have led to a full recovery had DiDio and Lee not returned. DiDio used Bendis and Snyder to undo Rebirth and killed DC Comics.

The few good spots here and then since (Waid's World's Finest, Venditti's Superman '78, Aaron's Flash and Green Lantern) are exceptions to the rule, akin to post-mortem muscle spasms.

WBD could save DC Comics (and resuscitate the industry in the process) by making major investments in programs that would truly revive DC Comics, but they refuse. These include, but are not limited to, publishing inexpensive and all-ages comics and putting them in as many retail spaces as they can manage: big box stores, convenience stores, drug stores, newsstands, etc. They should especially be in checkout lanes where kids can see them and ask their parents for them instead of candy and soft drinks.

This would build a new comics readership in time and, in turn, support the main line and the retailers who are suffering from abysmal sales and a company more interested (like Marvel) to publish headline-grabbing "events" for sales bumps instead of compelling stories.

My last unpopular opinion:

For whatever reason(s), DC's owners and even some of its own execs have always had a significant problem in understanding and respecting the nature of Superman. He IS the DC Universe, not Batman, despite the latter's popularity. DC's fall began in the early 2000s with people coming aboard who wanted to change Superman constantly (Loeb and Waid to a degree, but especially DiDio) and the DCU and the company has faltered ever since.