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    Are there any superhero teams are worse at teamwork than the Titans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Are there any superhero teams are worse at teamwork than the Titans?
    Do we technically count The Seven as a Superhero Team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Do we technically count The Seven as a Superhero Team?
    Great question, and I am struggling with an answer. Stormfront is completely evil, but Homelander actually wanted to save that planeload of people. Everybody else on the team seems to be better than Homelander, which makes the worst of them bad heroes but maybe not actual villains. And in the eyes of the general public, they are certainly regarded as superheroes. So I guess you could say that the Seven count as a superhero team, and clearly their teamwork is poor when they are actively fighting each other. But sometimes they work together, or at least some of them get together some of the time and work together.

    The Titans still strike me as worse at the teamwork. Individual Titans default to going it alone, and often seem to go out of the way to create personal drama and conflict with their supposed teammates. The only time I remember seeing teamwork in season one was when they infiltrated a mental institution, and then there were two occasions in season two. In season three, one member becomes an actual supervillain, and another dies when stubbornly going on a solo mission while lying about it to his alleged teammates. Late in the season, Nightwing is going to fight a villain and Superboy insists on helping. In keeping with typical Titans-style teamwork, Nightwing declines and then blows kryptonite dust all over Superboy. In all fairness, portions of the team did actually work together in multiple situations, and most threats fall short of needing a full Titans intervention anyway. It's worth noting that the Titans have an actual headquarters where they live together in both seasons two and three.

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    Really glad I never watched this series now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Great question, and I am struggling with an answer. Stormfront is completely evil, but Homelander actually wanted to save that planeload of people. Everybody else on the team seems to be better than Homelander, which makes the worst of them bad heroes but maybe not actual villains. And in the eyes of the general public, they are certainly regarded as superheroes. So I guess you could say that the Seven count as a superhero team, and clearly their teamwork is poor when they are actively fighting each other. But sometimes they work together, or at least some of them get together some of the time and work together.

    The Titans still strike me as worse at the teamwork. Individual Titans default to going it alone, and often seem to go out of the way to create personal drama and conflict with their supposed teammates. The only time I remember seeing teamwork in season one was when they infiltrated a mental institution, and then there were two occasions in season two. In season three, one member becomes an actual supervillain, and another dies when stubbornly going on a solo mission while lying about it to his alleged teammates. Late in the season, Nightwing is going to fight a villain and Superboy insists on helping. In keeping with typical Titans-style teamwork, Nightwing declines and then blows kryptonite dust all over Superboy. In all fairness, portions of the team did actually work together in multiple situations, and most threats fall short of needing a full Titans intervention anyway. It's worth noting that the Titans have an actual headquarters where they live together in both seasons two and three.
    Maaaan I haven't watched any of that cringefest in forever and that still seems like something that would happen in that show!

    Oh, oh and how can I forget Team Arrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Are there any superhero teams are worse at teamwork than the Titans?
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    Do we technically count The Seven as a Superhero Team?
    This is somewhat of a tangent, but in the comics one of the precursor teams to The Seven that came about as the result of Vought's experiments in the World War 2 era were sent into reinforce an Allied unit in German territory.

    By flying around, making noise, and effectively being dressed in big American flags, they not only caught the Axis' attention which led them back to the Allied encampment, but they all died horribly as a result and incurred huge losses for the people they were supposed to protect.

    ...granted The Boys and Ennis being who they are, they're all kinda on the bottom rung, especially if he's using them in comparison to military forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    The Titans still strike me as worse at the teamwork. Individual Titans default to going it alone, and often seem to go out of the way to create personal drama and conflict with their supposed teammates. The only time I remember seeing teamwork in season one was when they infiltrated a mental institution, and then there were two occasions in season two. In season three, one member becomes an actual supervillain, and another dies when stubbornly going on a solo mission while lying about it to his alleged teammates. Late in the season, Nightwing is going to fight a villain and Superboy insists on helping. In keeping with typical Titans-style teamwork, Nightwing declines and then blows kryptonite dust all over Superboy. In all fairness, portions of the team did actually work together in multiple situations, and most threats fall short of needing a full Titans intervention anyway. It's worth noting that the Titans have an actual headquarters where they live together in both seasons two and three.
    I always get the feeling Donna is just looking at the rest of them and thinking “Seriously, guys? What. The actual. Fuck?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    I always get the feeling Donna is just looking at the rest of them and thinking “Seriously, guys? What. The actual. Fuck?”
    Donna was one of the only people on the show I could stand, with Hawk and Dove on the OTHER end of the spectrum (like, 'throw bricks at TV' level of dislike). Needless to say, I gave up. ^_^
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    It's interesting that there have only been a handful of villains on the show, and that includes one current Titan and one former Titan. Of course, who needs enemies when you have friends like the Titans? I have to admit that I have been hate-watching the show, but I was ready to give up at the start of season three. But they moved the focus to Gotham City, and I really like Savannah Welch as Commissioner Barbara Gordon. She isn't particularly credible as Commissioner, in keeping with the nature of the show, but she has an interesting and expressive face, and lost a leg in a car accident years ago.

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    Total team of idiots. Hawk and Dove idiot. Made up out of the blue afterlife. Dumb instantiation of Raven and her CGI daddy.
    Worthless Starfire. What else do you want? Sick of PedoBat and his harem of psycho boys.

    Teen Titans Go! would tear them apart

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    Despite season three taking place in Gotham City, Batman fans should avoid this show like poison.

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    If the Nerima Wrecking Crew counted as superheroes, then they would probably be a strong contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    [S]hould avoid this show like poison.
    I fixed it for you. ^_^
    Why Are We Here?, by Pendaran

    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers." - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman." - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    If the Nerima Wrecking Crew counted as superheroes, then they would probably be a strong contender.
    Not a bad point. Even when working together, they often work against each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Despite season three taking place in Gotham City, Batman fans should avoid this show like poison.
    Beg your pardon but why is that?

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