Downtown Khazan: Ice Cold Utopia

[Sharpandpointies]

I'd say that Daredevil was good with its villains in season 1 and 3, MCU Kingpin and Bullseye are great and I'm so sad that we won't get more of them.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed DD second-best. Season 1, the first half of season 2, Season 3...all pretty darned good.

But yeah, season 3 of JJ has done a great job so far with simple but terrifying villain, and it's given the entire cast interesting arcs that are largely their own but weave together nicely. I'm especially happy with how they handled Jessica and Trish's relationship this season.

I rather enjoyed how they continued Trish's 'fall' from season 2.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed DD second-best. Season 1, the first half of season 2, Season 3...all pretty darned good.

Currently DD is a bit ahead of JJ because I love season 1 and 3 of DD so much. We'll see after I've finished this JJ season.

I rather enjoyed how they continued Trish's 'fall' from season 2.

I got a bit tired of Trish in season 2, but I enjoy her a lot more this season. Not because she's become cooler or more likeable, but because her story is more engaging and acts as a nice contrast to Jessica's.

And Hogarth's continued struggle against her own self-destruction is as sad as it is fascinating. I really like how the show handles consequences.

[Lord Falcon]

No, no... You're thinking of Castle DEFENSE Doctrine. This is Castle ASSAULT Doctrine.

Feudal Nobles were TOTALLY Allowed to shoot other Nobles and/or guards, peasants, and other folk they didn't like when they were attacking someone else's castle. I mean they had to use crossbows, but same basic idea. The question is did she have a Cassi Belli? Because an Unjust War should get you a serious penalty to other Noble's opinion of you.

I MAY have been playing a bit too much Crusader Kings 2 lately...

Ha!

Cassus belli is bullshit 99% of the time anyway. Countries want a war for one reason or another and look for a way to talk of themselves as the good guys. It's war. By the end, nobody's hands will be clean.

I have a few friends who love those games.

[Beadle]

I know Iron Fist is painful for some people, but honestly the only bits of the Netflix MCU that have annoyed me have been the Elektra stuff and everything about Diamondback. Everything else has been fun.

[Sub-Zero MKA]

I didn't really mind Diamondback. The only thing that annoyed me about him was that he replaced the brilliant Cottonmouth.

Also, fun fact: The actress who played Black Mariah in Like Cage also played the mother who accosted Tony in Civil War.

[master of read]

for halloween season, i shall live read "dracula" for my channel.

come visit the stream and tell me if my brittish accent is better than keanu's. lol

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

for halloween season, i shall live read "dracula" for my channel.

come visit the stream and tell me if my brittish accent is better than keanu's. lol

Can tell you now it's not. That man is a national treasure.






... nah man I'm sure it's great

[Sharpandpointies]

Currently DD is a bit ahead of JJ because I love season 1 and 3 of DD so much. We'll see after I've finished this JJ season.

I got a bit tired of Trish in season 2, but I enjoy her a lot more this season. Not because she's become cooler or more likeable, but because her story is more engaging and acts as a nice contrast to Jessica's.

And Hogarth's continued struggle against her own self-destruction is as sad as it is fascinating. I really like how the show handles consequences.

After watching Season 3, I totally understand Trish Season 2. The writers were taking the long view on the character, knowing that Season 3 was coming. Trish, season 2, is basically the foundation for Trish, season 3.

Agreed on Hogarth as well.

I know Iron Fist is painful for some people, but honestly the only bits of the Netflix MCU that have annoyed me have been the Elektra stuff and everything about Diamondback. Everything else has been fun.

Diamondback...anything with Elektra, which sadly spilled over into Defenders (she was actually at her best when she was Black Sky)...Iron Fist Season One's true villain, who basically pulled a Diamondback (and was...so unthreatening and dull)...most Iron Fist fight scenes...Danny's actual character...the post credit scene...Elektra (worth mentioning again)...Alexandra having Elektra pull a Diamondback on her (yes, worth mentioning Elektra a third time)...

I mean, I did like parts of Iron Fist. Those parts would be 'Ward' and 'Two of Coleen's Fights'. ^_^ And, amusingly, I liked Danny a whole lot in Luke Cage, where the writers wrote him completely differently from in his own series.

I don't hate the NF shows. I love them (except Iron Fist). That's probably why I was so disappointed with some of the choices they made: because I DID love the shows.

I didn't really mind Diamondback. The only thing that annoyed me about him was that he replaced the brilliant Cottonmouth.

Cottonmouth was awesome.

[master of read]

After watching Season 3, I totally understand Trish Season 2. The writers were taking the long view on the character, knowing that Season 3 was coming. Trish, season 2, is basically the foundation for Trish, season 3.

Agreed on Hogarth as well.



Diamondback...anything with Elektra, which sadly spilled over into Defenders (she was actually at her best when she was Black Sky)...Iron Fist Season One's true villain, who basically pulled a Diamondback (and was...so unthreatening and dull)...most Iron Fist fight scenes...Danny's actual character...the post credit scene...Elektra (worth mentioning again)...Alexandra having Elektra pull a Diamondback on her (yes, worth mentioning Elektra a third time)...

I mean, I did like parts of Iron Fist. Those parts would be 'Ward' and 'Two of Coleen's Fights'. ^_^ And, amusingly, I liked Danny a whole lot in Luke Cage, where the writers wrote him completely differently from in his own series.

I don't hate the NF shows. I love them (except Iron Fist). That's probably why I was so disappointed with some of the choices they made: because I DID love the shows.



Cottonmouth was awesome.

[Sharpandpointies]

Maaaan, that was the absolute worst of the villain replacements, in my opinion; mostly because Cottonmouth was so compelling as a villain.

[Beadle]

Yeah, Cottonmouth was incredible, while Diamondback was inedible.

And everyone always forgets about Punisher. Which was great as a series. People auto-associate Netflix MCU with the Defenders-related series (DD, JJ, LC, IF & Defenders), but Punisher was totally a thing. Jigsaw (especially season 1) was a great villain.

I’d say the gold standard of Netflix villains is Fisk, Killgrave, Cottonmouth, Jigsaw and Bullseye. With Madam Gao, Black Mariah, Shades, Alexandra, Harold Meachum, The Owl and the psycho dude from JJ S3 as the next tier down.

[Sharpandpointies]

The psycho from Jessica Jones 3 was Foolkiller #2, Gregory Salinger. Not the best of the Foolkiller characters, frankly; that would be Kurt Gerhardt (616 Universe), in his limited series...and not to be confused with Kurt Gerhardt (Ultimate Universe) who became a villain in 616. Somehow.

Because Marvel, I guess.

[master of read]

i still got a soft spot for bushmaster.

something about him really clicks with me.

[Sharpandpointies]

i still got a soft spot for bushmaster.

something about him really clicks with me.

Another good villian, yep.

[FistofIron]

I’ve really enjoyed Koga’s growth in Kengan Omega. I was hoping that his opponent would be Kokuro though.