Downtown Khazan: Ice Cold Utopia

[grampagen]

So you're saying Horikoshi should do the thing he's already been doing for a long time now

Bakugou flips in an instant from this emergent type-a personality leader and back to being an abrasive clod, who Kaminari among others shrugs and laughs at for being 'not so bad once you get to know him.'

I'm saying this character could stand to grow a little more than not at all.

[Nik Hasta]

I've been very much enjoying the most recent story arc of Dr Stone.

Previously, I'd found the series a bit dry and by the numbers in places but bringing in a superior force to act as antagonists and to force the team into really desperate situations has lead to a lot of fun stuff. Definitely drawn me in a lot more than it had done previously.

Also, Boichi's art always delivers.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Ok. So?

He's not even in this chapter, which you evidently won't read anyway, nor did I mention him at all.

So why even bother commenting on the comment if you don't care about the series being commented on?

Oh, I care about the series, but the continued acceptance of Bakugou does a great deal to lessen my enjoyment. It's almost as if you being seemingly triggered by the comment emphazises my annoyance.

[Nik Hasta]

Oh, I care about the series, but the continued acceptance of Bakugou does a great deal to lessen my enjoyment. It's almost as if you being seemingly triggered by the comment emphazises my annoyance.

You just looking to start fights today or something?

[Jcogginsa]

The worst thing Bakugo ever did happened in the first chapter, which can easily be chalked up to Early installment Weirdness.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

You just looking to start fights today or something?

When someone starts swinging, sure.

[Nik Hasta]

When someone starts swinging, sure.

But you're literally the only person swinging.

Dark says "I like the recent chapter of MHA," and you decide to pick a fight. There's no call for it, no need to escalate it either by egging him on when he reacts defensively.

I advise you calm down and take a walk or whatever. Come back when you're in less of an antagonistic mood.

[grampagen]

The worst thing Bakugo ever did happened in the first chapter, which can easily be chalked up to Early installment Weirdness.

It would be different if anybody explicitly called him out on this, or if his obnoxiousness was punished in a way that had consequences, or if the guy ever learned something that build his character.

As is, he has small moments like Best Jeanist telling him to work on his image or Endeavour giving him a little advice on how to plan his approach, to backsliding into this static, hyperbolic caricature of a shonen rival, and everyone around him goes "Oh, that's our Kacchan, what a passionate guy."

What works for some doesn't work for me, is all I'm saying.

...anywho, this is rather far afield.

[The Dog]

It would be different if anybody explicitly called him out on this, or if his obnoxiousness was punished in a way that had consequences, or if the guy ever learned something that build his character.

As is, he has small moments like Best Jeanist telling him to work on his image or Endeavour giving him a little advice on how to plan his approach, to backsliding into this static, hyperbolic caricature of a shonen rival, and everyone around him goes "Oh, that's our Kacchan, what a passionate guy."

What works for some doesn't work for me, is all I'm saying.

...anywho, this is rather far afield.

Pretty much.

I'd like to see Izuku read him to riot act on how he treats people (especially Izuku), but Izuku's been so abused by society and Bakugou for so long, he's pretty much internalized what seems to be an "abuse victim" mentality. He refuses to acknowledge that Bakugou's done anything wrong, especially to him personally, and tries to justify or excuse every terrible thing Bakugou's done, even suicide baiting him.

And saying it's "early installment weirdness" does not sweep that under the rug. He did it, and he hasn't apologized OR suffered for it in any way.

[Jcogginsa]

Bakugo has suffered from his actions, and he's Near-Literally taken a bullet for Deku. Y'all just salty

[grampagen]

Bakugo has suffered from his actions, and he's Near-Literally taken a bullet for Deku. Y'all just salty

Are you going to contribute to this discussion in any manner that is not belligerent and dismissive? If not I am content to leave the matter lie.

[grampagen]

Pretty much.

I'd like to see Izuku read him to riot act on how he treats people (especially Izuku), but Izuku's been so abused by society and Bakugou for so long, he's pretty much internalized what seems to be an "abuse victim" mentality. He refuses to acknowledge that Bakugou's done anything wrong, especially to him personally, and tries to justify or excuse every terrible thing Bakugou's done, even suicide baiting him.

And saying it's "early installment weirdness" does not sweep that under the rug. He did it, and he hasn't apologized OR suffered for it in any way.

I don't think Izuku, in his heart of hearts, has it in him to do that, specifically. He's the kind of guy who shows up with deeds instead of telling someone off.

Of course Bakugou being a petty person who misinterprets such an action as being higher than thou, it really is a one-sided sort of rivalry isn't it?

Hopefully things well develop given some time.

[Jcogginsa]

Are you going to contribute to this discussion in any manner that is not belligerent and dismissive? If not I am content to leave the matter lie.

What's the point, when some people a willing to ignore any facts that contradict their position.

Saying that Bakugo has never suffered is factually incorrect. He was kidnapped, and then had to watch his childhood idol be forced into retirement while trying to rescue him.

Saying that he's never done anything to help Izuku is also false. Bakugo jumped in front of an impalement to defend Izuku.

Bekugo has grown and become a better person, no matter how much people try to ignore that.

[Guy1]

So Deku is basically fighting The End now isn't he?

Any advice, Snake?

[grampagen]

What's the point, when some people a willing to ignore any facts that contradict their position.

Well, you'll never find out if you don't try to engage in good faith instead of presuming the worst of other posters, now will you?

Saying that Bakugo has never suffered is factually incorrect. He was kidnapped, and then had to watch his childhood idol be forced into retirement while trying to rescue him.

So did everybody else in the MHA world.

While certainly this affects him in a personal level as much as Izuku insofar as All Might's pedstal is his goal, I'm not sure how this is relevant to what I brought up earlier regarding his peers' unconditional positive regard and his lack of character growth.

Moreover, his getting kidnapped had nothing to do with him being punished for his grating attitude toward his peers. He told the villains to stuff it, after all.

Saying that he's never done anything to help Izuku is also false. Bakugo jumped in front of an impalement to defend Izuku.

Sure. But nobody said that he didn't, it's an issue of holding him to account for being, dare I say, toxically competitive.

Bekugo has grown and become a better person, no matter how much people try to ignore that.

It is my opinion, shown by the page posted above, that he remains as small-minded and belligerent as he's always been. Part of that, certainly, is in keeping with his base characterization, but in this length of time perhaps I am wanting too much.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see as the manga progresses.