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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Falcon View Post
    Sounds right to me, Sharp!

    Revisiting Three Kingdoms nowadays, I've gotten a different appreciation for the characters and their motivations.

    Cao Cao ends up being the ruler I root for the most. He's ruthless and deceptive, proud and driven. He highly values capable generals but is limited in his vision of how to win their loyalty. By the time the most famous period of the Three Kingdoms novel rolls around he is the logical choice for peace in China.

    Liu Bei becomes a much more fascinating character when you interpret his virtuousness as a mix of his true beliefs and a deliberate political weapon. He frames his fight as one for the people of China, yet never is Cao Cao ever portrayed as someone cruel to commoners.

    And Zhuge Liang should know this. Which gives his decision to become Liu Bei's strategist added depth as to what it says about Zhuge Liang's values. Because without the "fight for the people" angle, what Liu Bei is left with is his claim to restore the Han dynasty and the confucian sense of loyalty that evokes in Chinese culture. And Zhuge Liang is willing to tear himself away from his quiet life to give all his energies to a near-hopeless cause, all because there is finally a Han throne claimant who is reasonably worthy.
    The scene was well done. I liked it. I'll need to track down that specific movie. ^_^

    Interesting interpretation - I admit to not knowing a lot about the whole Three Kingdoms story, it's a blind spot. ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    The scene was well done. I liked it. I'll need to track down that specific movie. ^_^

    Interesting interpretation - I admit to not knowing a lot about the whole Three Kingdoms story, it's a blind spot. ^_^
    It was an older TV series.

    I'm currently watching a 2010 version of the Three Kingdoms. It's great in many ways (fight choreography budget is way better, for one, and Cao Cao's actor is amazing), but the Empty Fort scene in question is no match for the older one you just viewed.

    Understood on the lack of familiarity! Three Kingdoms is my favorite of the three classic Chinese epics, though I admittedly could learn a lot more about Water Margin.

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    I should read that stuff. I struggled a little with Journey to the West (enjoyed it, but struggled) and so never really got into them. ^_^
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    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
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    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    I should read that stuff. I struggled a little with Journey to the West (enjoyed it, but struggled) and so never really got into them. ^_^
    Journey to the West is a curious case. The best part of the Journey is all about Sun Wukong rising to power and then dicking over half of heaven. The actual journey west is kinda episodic and doesn't seem to develop the characters to the same extent.

    Three Kingdoms is fictionalized history. Kinda like Kingdom but told from many perspectives and with a bigger emphasis on politics, statesmanship and character-driven narrative.

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    That crime rpg looks pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FistofIron View Post
    That crime rpg looks pretty good.
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    "I Love You 3000."
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    Apparently dumbasses in my state are making Meth Gators!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/po...6T06%3A01%3A04

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    Apparently dumbasses in my state are making Meth Gators!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/po...6T06%3A01%3A04
    This is the first time I ever heard about there being Gators in Tennessee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceleegreyhulk View Post
    This is the first time I ever heard about there being Gators in Tennessee.
    Honestly, same here

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