Frieza Invades Invincible Universe

[Lazzlo304]

Frieza lands his ship in the main city. His army is comprised of new and old allies.

Frieza's army:

-King Cold
-Lord Chilled
-Perfect Cell + 7 Cell Jr.s
-Cooler, Salza, Neiz, Dore
-Lord Slug, Commander Zeeun, Angila, Wings, Medamatcha
-Turles, Amond, Cacao, Daiz, Rasin, Lakesei
-Sorbet, Tagoma(Enhanced to Ginyu-Merge levels), Shisami
-Abo and Cado
-The Ginyu Force (Ginyu, Recoome, Burter, Jeice, Guldo)
-Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, Appule
-1,000 Soldiers
-1,000 Saibamen

Can the heroes from Invincible stop this threat? What would it take?

[Guy1]

Does he even need anybody here besides Cell tho?

Seriously tho, I don't think anybody on Earth is doing anything to this army unless Mark and Nolan are on Earth and they'd get overwhelmed fast. The other Viltrumites might be able to help out but DBZ Villains are crazy. Especially if this is Gold Frieza on up.

This is basically a Super Stomp.

[Lazzlo304]

Does he even need anybody here besides Cell tho?

Seriously tho, I don't think anybody on Earth is doing anything to this army unless Mark and Nolan are on Earth and they'd get overwhelmed fast. The other Viltrumites might be able to help out but DBZ Villains are crazy. Especially if this is Gold Frieza on up.

This is basically a Super Stomp.

The threat may also attract Battle Beast, Allen the Alien, and even Atom Eve is a problem. I know they have a ton of strong heroes in season 2.

[master of read]

its's bad enough frieza and his army are there.

then you add cell, who several levels stronger than frieza. (unless this is DBS frieza, who is now the strongest fighter in the universe not counting gods)

like guy said, this is a super stomp.

[Len Ikari145]

its's bad enough frieza and his army are there.

then you add cell, who several levels stronger than frieza. (unless this is DBS frieza, who is now the strongest fighter in the universe not counting gods)

like guy said, this is a super stomp.

I mean, Frieza doesn't even need to be here. Literally any of his subordinates - even his low-level grunts - could just vaporize the planet with a well-placed core-busting blast. Adding characters like Turles, Cooler, Cell (and his offspring), King Cold, etc. is just unnecessary overkill.

[Jackalope89]

I do know that it is generally accepted that Saiyans are simply stronger than Vitrumites, at least within a planet's atmosphere. And that's the average Saiyan, not Suepr Saiyans on up.

Freeza was already leagues stronger than most Saiyans combined in his weakest form, from which he annihilated their home planet. His lieutenants and other named cronies would pose a danger to the Vitrumites as well.

I think the only real question would be; does Freeza play around with them in his sadistic and evil ways, or just wipe them out? I guess it depends on how annoyed he would be.

[master of read]

I mean, Frieza doesn't even need to be here. Literally any of his subordinates - even his low-level grunts - could just vaporize the planet with a well-placed core-busting blast. Adding characters like Turles, Cooler, Cell (and his offspring), King Cold, etc. is just unnecessary overkill.

radizt was a mountain buster when he fought goku and piccolo at the start of DBZ. nappa nuked a city by raising his fingers and the explosion could be seen from orbit.

i bring them up because they were considered below average to average in terms of strength in frieza's army. meaning that frieza has 1k guys who can wipe out cities like it was nothing. they'd have their hands full with them.

above is cui was around the same power level as vegeta before he went to earth, which was a lot higher than those rank and file soldiers. honestly, everyone would be lucky to get past the frieza goons and cui. once zarbon and dodoria hit the field, it's a wrap.

[Jcogginsa]

radizt was a mountain buster when he fought goku and piccolo at the start of DBZ. nappa nuked a city by raising his fingers and the explosion could be seen from orbit.

i bring them up because they were considered below average to average in terms of strength in frieza's army. meaning that frieza has 1k guys who can wipe out cities like it was nothing. they'd have their hands full with them.

above is cui was around the same power level as vegeta before he went to earth, which was a lot higher than those rank and file soldiers. honestly, everyone would be lucky to get past the frieza goons and cui. once zarbon and dodoria hit the field, it's a wrap.

IIRc Nappa's above average actually. He's four thousand while Frieza's grunts were getting slaughtered by Namekians who were at 3000.

This of course still leaves them far below the likes of Dodoria and Zarbon though

[Nebulous]

Even worse, which Frieza we talking? Before or after his resurrection and training?

[choptop]

Current black Frieza is probably stronger than anyone in DB even the gods he solos.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Current black Frieza is probably stronger than anyone in DB even the gods he solos.

We haven't seen him fight any of the gods. So we don't actually know if he's stronger than them.

But he is very strong yes. Frieza could probably solo this all the way back in the Namek saga.

[choptop]

To be honest I'm kinda tied of Frieza

[master of read]

We haven't seen him fight any of the gods. So we don't actually know if he's stronger than them.

But he is very strong yes. Frieza could probably solo this all the way back in the Namek saga.

true. he did own both goku and vegeta, so he is at least stronger than them. but fighting gods and angels? he hasn't shown anything to suggest he could.

[Captain Morgan]

As a reminder, this is an invasion,, not a death march. Freiza's MO is to send his goons to wipe all sentient life on a planet and then sell it to the highest bidder. Destroying Planet Vegeta was the exception, not the norm. That makes this more complicated than people give it credit for. For one thing, every Viltrulmite and several other key players can fly at interstellar speeds under their own power. The vast majority of the Dragonball army can't. Only a handful can, and only if you pluck their most powerful versions from continuity in a way that doesn't jive with the OP. Freiza only learned it in super IIRC and this feels like a Z based snap shot. Cell only learned it after his Cell Jrs were destroyed, so that doesn't quite jive either. And I think the only other person is Cooler. All three are way more powerful than anything in the Invincible verse, but they can't be everywhere at once and Viltrulmites shouldn't have major ki signatures to lock onto from interstellar distances.

So after taking initial losses (inevitably ceding Earth or whatever planet makes first contact) the Viltrulmites can scatter to the stars and begin a long, drawn out guerilla warfare campaign. Intercepting and destroying troop transport ships mid-transit or targeting the customers Frieza sells planets to. Viltrulmites live for centuries and can breed with anything even remotely humanoid, so if this is after the empire got over their blood line purity thing they will be almost impossible to eradicate across the universe. They've also shown the willingness to kamikaze en masse, and their light speed charges have imparted planet sundering forces. (The collision would have killed them were it not for a certain unstoppable energy ray, but again, kamikaze.)

The Alliance also secretly designed biological weapons capable of wiping out Viltrum. They should be able to do a new virus here, but I'm not sure if it will work on Freiza and his family. Even Super Saiyans are vulnerable to disease, but Frieza survived things that would kill a Super Saiyan, like having his body torn apart and floating in the vacuum of space for an extended period, which suggests he's not as beholden to normal biology.

And then there's Space Racer. I'm sure many decent Z fighter could aim doge his gun, but I don't think most would bother when faced by a generic alien with miniscule power levels firing a generic looking laster gun. But that Ray gun fires bolts that blast through planets, stars, and everything forever as they fly across the universe at the speed of light. They should punch through even the top Z fighters. So then there's a question of whether the home team can keep Space Racer a secret Kong enough to lure Freiza into an ambush.

This all assumes an end of series Invincible Universe, by the way. If we are talking mid-series, like wherever the TV show is, it goes very differently. Frieza just conscripts the Viltrulmites into his army. Their interstellar flight alone makes them a worth while addition, but there's also a possibility of stacking ki on top of their enhanced physiology or breeding them with other powerful aliens to make specialized super soldiers.

Edit: oh, and I'll note Allen the Alien has a survival feats similar to Frieza but gets a huge upgrade after being critically wounded like a Saiyan.

[greatmetropolitan]

As a reminder, this is an invasion,, not a death march. Freiza's MO is to send his goons to wipe all sentient life on a planet and then sell it to the highest bidder. Destroying Planet Vegeta was the exception, not the norm. That makes this more complicated than people give it credit for. For one thing, every Viltrulmite and several other key players can fly at interstellar speeds under their own power. The vast majority of the Dragonball army can't. Only a handful can, and only if you pluck their most powerful versions from continuity in a way that doesn't jive with the OP. Freiza only learned it in super IIRC and this feels like a Z based snap shot. Cell only learned it after his Cell Jrs were destroyed, so that doesn't quite jive either. And I think the only other person is Cooler. All three are way more powerful than anything in the Invincible verse, but they can't be everywhere at once and Viltrulmites shouldn't have major ki signatures to lock onto from interstellar distances.

So after taking initial losses (inevitably ceding Earth or whatever planet makes first contact) the Viltrulmites can scatter to the stars and begin a long, drawn out guerilla warfare campaign. Intercepting and destroying troop transport ships mid-transit or targeting the customers Frieza sells planets to. Viltrulmites live for centuries and can breed with anything even remotely humanoid, so if this is after the empire got over their blood line purity thing they will be almost impossible to eradicate across the universe. They've also shown the willingness to kamikaze en masse, and their light speed charges have imparted planet sundering forces. (The collision would have killed them were it not for a certain unstoppable energy ray, but again, kamikaze.)

The Alliance also secretly designed biological weapons capable of wiping out Viltrum. They should be able to do a new virus here, but I'm not sure if it will work on Freiza and his family. Even Super Saiyans are vulnerable to disease, but Frieza survived things that would kill a Super Saiyan, like having his body torn apart and floating in the vacuum of space for an extended period, which suggests he's not as beholden to normal biology.

And then there's Space Racer. I'm sure many decent Z fighter could aim doge his gun, but I don't think most would bother when faced by a generic alien with miniscule power levels firing a generic looking laster gun. But that Ray gun fires bolts that blast through planets, stars, and everything forever as they fly across the universe at the speed of light. They should punch through even the top Z fighters. So then there's a question of whether the home team can keep Space Racer a secret Kong enough to lure Freiza into an ambush.

This all assumes an end of series Invincible Universe, by the way. If we are talking mid-series, like wherever the TV show is, it goes very differently. Frieza just conscripts the Viltrulmites into his army. Their interstellar flight alone makes them a worth while addition, but there's also a possibility of stacking ki on top of their enhanced physiology or breeding them with other powerful aliens to make specialized super soldiers.

Edit: oh, and I'll note Allen the Alien has a survival feats similar to Frieza but gets a huge upgrade after being critically wounded like a Saiyan.

Frieza beats up Thragg, Ginyu bodyswaps Thragg, surrenders.