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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarMan View Post
    Your complaint is with the writers themselves. Did we say Storm should no longer be an X-man when the writers started writing her horribly? No. Of course not. Our hope was that they could right the ship. And there's no reason they couldn't do that with Jean and Phoenix.
    Exactly. Like after being kept dead for 20 years not only was Magín brought back she became a major XMan and a protege of Dr. Strange.

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    RIP Stan Lee. Thanks for creating Jean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    There is not a real Phoenix Wolverine running around in Thor’s book. This takes place in an alternate future in Earth got destroyed and Thor made a new Earth with primitive humans that worship him as God. Obviously this future is never going to happen for too many reasons to mention here. Try not to dig up reasons to complain and be unhappy.
    I think the point is, whether it is a future or not, that Phoenix / Force has been given to yet another character fior no reason at all, taking it further from Jean again. Phoenix is just used with no real thought any more. Lazy ideas and writing, that Phienix has become irrelevant. morrison at least gave Phoenix a purpose, but this has been diminished or titally firgotten about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portsian View Post
    I think the point is, whether it is a future or not, that Phoenix / Force has been given to yet another character fior no reason at all, taking it further from Jean again. Phoenix is just used with no real thought any more. Lazy ideas and writing, that Phienix has become irrelevant. morrison at least gave Phoenix a purpose, but this has been diminished or titally firgotten about.
    The one thing that made Jean powerful enough to not just become a god but greater than her male counterparts is being taken away for some lousy stories...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    RIP Stan Lee. Thanks for creating Jean.
    Since the X-Men of today are mostly influenced by Claremont's run, it's easy to forget that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created Jean and the original X-Men. It's a really sad day.

    I came across this variant cover that I had never seen before depicting Stan and Jean while searching on Google today. I think it's by Stephanie Hans.

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20170829020118

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanami View Post
    The one thing that made Jean powerful enough to not just become a god but greater than her male counterparts is being taken away for some lousy stories...
    Like hell Jean needs the Phoenix to be greater than the guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit, King of Thieves View Post
    Like hell Jean needs the Phoenix to be greater than the guys.

    https://twitter.com/amadcartoonist/s...59898762100736
    Lol, but it's true. Jean doesn't need the phoenix to be stronger than almost all male mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanami View Post
    The one thing that made Jean powerful enough to not just become a god but greater than her male counterparts is being taken away for some lousy stories...
    Read what you're saying, for God's sake. Jean has been rrgularly portrayed as stronger than her male counterparts for years. X-Men Red, even though she's fighting an idiot version of Cassandra Nova, shows how strong she is by herself

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    My Babs Tarr commission - 90's Jean.
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    Wokay...any of you read Uncanny yet, is it out already?

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    Yeah, it should be out by now. Don't comics come out at midnight digitally in the US? That's over five hours ago on the East coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Yeah, it should be out by now. Don't comics come out at midnight digitally in the US? That's over five hours ago on the East coast.
    Some youtuber happen to have it already maybe midnight

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    Uncanny X-men #1 was astonishing. I highly recommend it to everyone, even if you're not a Jean Grey fan.

    But if you are a Jean fan, there's also a nice bonus story in there that I think you'll appreciate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelMaster616 View Post
    Uncanny X-men #1 was astonishing. I highly recommend it to everyone, even if you're not a Jean Grey fan.

    But if you are a Jean fan, there's also a nice bonus story in there that I think you'll appreciate.
    Just out of curious what is the bonus jean story about?

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    My school lets seniors leave if they don't have class.
    I've got a study hall from 9:10 to 10:10, and break from 10:10 to 10:30.
    I intend to be outside my comic shop at 9:30, because they usually open a little early.
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