Jean Grey: Marvel Girl, Phoenix Appreciation 2018

[Havok83]

Stuff like this make me realize how much Jean was missing from the X-books in genereal. She was a huge part of the family feeling, like a sister, mother, friend, teammate that went missing for years.

Jean's death left a cloud over the X-men that never passed....yep I'd agree with that

[Drey]

Jean definitely had presence in the X-men and I agree that she was a big part of the family feeling. I was okay with her being dead for a few years so that Betsy and Emma could have their time to shine, but I didn't expect her to stay dead as long as she did. I found myself kinda ready for her to be resurrected around the time the 05 appeared.

[mike7171]

AXM Annual preview. Jean talks about her meeting with the younger Jean. Im guessing this is the most we are gonna get out of that Jean Grey #11 finale

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...-men-annual-1/

i wonder when this occured. In between Jean's resurrection and before X-Men Red, maybe?

[Soulsword323]

I'm really excited for that annual. Really liking the dialogue, Rosenberg's Jean in particular. Art looks stellar too. Love that dress Jean has on.

Jean should haven been resurrected a long time ago. She was kept dead for way too long, and her extreme absence was unnecessary. She missed out on a lot of good stories imo, and I'm still bitter about it, but she's here now.

[PsychoEFrost]

Jean definitely had presence in the X-men and I agree that she was a big part of the family feeling. I was okay with her being dead for a few years so that Betsy and Emma could have their time to shine, but I didn't expect her to stay dead as long as she did. I found myself kinda ready for her to be resurrected around the time the 05 appeared.

It was interesting that editorial pulled that move. Death in comics tends to not hold very much weight. If an important character dies, there's a good chance we'll see them alive again at some point, and for many novice Marvel readers, Jean personified this. So it was a massive subversion of expectation to have her death go on as long as it did (with the caveat that she was obviously pulling a few strings from the WHR).

Jean's death left a cloud over the X-men that never passed....yep I'd agree with that

There are two theories for that.

1) Jean was the heart of the X-Men, and losing her made everyone else lose their way, leading into the eventual Schism.

2) The interpersonal problems of the team were too severe, and Jean was the only one who managed to keep things level.

Either way, hard not to say that her being gone only made the interpersonal problems of the team worse.

[phoenixzero23]

I can't imagine how some of the stories that happened in her abscense would have gone if Jean was there. Some of them (like schism or AvX or the whole deal with hope) probably wouldn't have happened at all.
or marvel could have butchered her character in a horrible way to made them work.

I just can't imagine Jean in a dumb hero vs hero event or bad schisms. she is smarter than that

[Havok83]

I definitely think Schism would never have happened if she were alive. I cant see her allowing things to get that hateful between Cyclops and Wolverine to the point where the X-men and school split up

[Harpsikord]

Schism absolutely never would have happened in the way that they represented it, not at all. It may have happened in another way, though, since Cyclops might have downward spiraled into his Magneto mentality either way.

I used to imagine that there might be a schism between Jean and Scott where Jean took a more Charles inspired stance but didn't do the hypocritical thing of saying not to allow any children to fight while continuing to fight herself like Logan did.

[nightw1ng]

AXM Annual preview. Jean talks about her meeting with the younger Jean. Im guessing this is the most we are gonna get out of that Jean Grey #11 finale

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...-men-annual-1/

If you're referring to the word balloon that has the quote of teen Jean referring to talking with Rachel, I think that's Bobby who says it, not adult Jean. He's the one holding the wine bottle and sitting to Hank's right side.

Btw, I like how the artist draws Jean's memory manifestation. I'm a fan of Travel Foreman, so I'm looking forward to see if he gets to draw any power feats for Jean.

[Havok83]

If you're referring to the word balloon that has the quote of teen Jean referring to talking with Rachel, I think that's Bobby who says it, not adult Jean. He's the one holding the wine bottle and sitting to Hank's right side.

Btw, I like how the artist draws Jean's memory manifestation. I'm a fan of Travel Foreman, so I'm looking forward to see if he gets to draw any power feats for Jean.

oh you're right. Im guessing we'll have to wait till Xmen Blue's finale to get any insight on Jean meeting teen Jean

[phoenixzero23]

I hope Adult Jean appears in Extermination but i doubt it. it seems too packed and that cover maybe just a charade.

[Harpsikord]

I hope Adult Jean appears in Extermination but i doubt it. it seems too packed and that cover maybe just a charade.

Well, given that the solicit says Jean and her X-Men, it's definitely not a charade.

[phoenixzero23]

Well, given that the solicit says Jean and her X-Men, it's definitely not a charade.

It could be teen Jean but i hope you're right.

[Havok83]

I hope Adult Jean appears in Extermination but i doubt it. it seems too packed and that cover maybe just a charade.

what are you talking about? Your avatar is ripped straight from Extermination and we've already seen her in it

It could be teen Jean but i hope you're right.

#3 has teen Jean on the cover and the solicit refers to her as young Jean Grey. #4 has adult Jean on the cover and refers to her as just Jean. They've distinguished between the two

[mike7171]

Oohhh... 2 comics to look forward to on 8/15. AXM and Extermination#1.