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[Frontier]

https://discussingfilm.net/2019/06/1...man-exclusive/

Two-Face and the Mad Hatter will reportedly be in Reeves' Batman movie as well.

I was wondering if we'd get a pre Two-Face Harvey Dent.

Hatter is cool if only because we haven't seen him in a movie yet.

[The Darknight Detective]

Is there any villain that won't be there?

Probably not Darth Vader, Bluto, Professor Moriarty, or Ming the Merciless.

[Jim Kelly]

The stuff that Matt Reeves originally said about his Batman movie piqued my interest, because it sounded like he was going to finally break the cookie-cutter for every Batman movie going back to 1966--with a bunch of costumed villains jammed into the story--and instead tell a great detective yarn (like there used to be in DETECTIVE COMIC back in the early 1970s). But the more information that comes out, the more it sounds like his Batman movie is going to be like every other Batman movie.

[Holt]

The bunch of villains actually makes this sound more like a detective film to me, not less. Round up the usual suspects, and what not.

[byrd156]

The stuff that Matt Reeves originally said about his Batman movie piqued my interest, because it sounded like he was going to finally break the cookie-cutter for every Batman movie going back to 1966--with a bunch of costumed villains jammed into the story--and instead tell a great detective yarn (like there used to be in DETECTIVE COMIC back in the early 1970s). But the more information that comes out, the more it sounds like his Batman movie is going to be like every other Batman movie.

You can still have a detective story with a bunch of villains. I doubt each one will show up with equal screentime and same level of threat. We have had a bunch of villains before but they never really feel very balanced outside of the Nolan films and Batman 66.

[Ascended]

The bunch of villains actually makes this sound more like a detective film to me, not less. Round up the usual suspects, and what not.

An adaptation of Hush, perhaps?

[Frontier]

An adaptation of Hush, perhaps?

I don't see Reeves adapting Hush. I think he's more of a fan of Long Halloween, which also had a lot of Batman villains.

[signalman112]

Firefly in a BATMAN movie? Sounds good to me. Hope he is wearing this costume.

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[byrd156]

I don't see Reeves adapting Hush. I think he's more of a fan of Long Halloween, which also had a lot of Batman villains.

I feel like Long Halloween is the closest comparison you can draw to already existing material from all the details we've heard so far. A pretty good starting point for a younger Batman post-origin story.

[Gaastra]

The big rumor is it is a version of the long Halloween.



https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/02/01/...ong-halloween/

[Jim Kelly]

You can still have a detective story with a bunch of villains.

That's true, but it will be a different kind of detective story. The original statements from Reeves had me thinking of the Batman detective stories that didn't feature any costumed criminals and had the Masked Manhunter in the dark streets of Gotham, investigating a ground level mystery. I guess, I let my imagination run away with me and hoped I would get the sort of Batman movie I've always imagined, where there wasn't this distraction of bright, glitzy escapees from a lunatic asylum.

Maybe Reeves never was saying what I thought he was. But giving the audience costumed crooks changes their expectations from the picture. They won't be in the proper frame of mind to follow a yarn that's all about the Batman searching for clues and investigating a complicated plot. They'll be waiting for the next shiney thing to pop up on screen. It's like giving kids a bag full of candies to munch on and then expecting them to settle down and listen to a bedtime story about Henry Huggins.

[Frontier]

That's true, but it will be a different kind of detective story. The original statements from Reeves had me thinking of the Batman detective stories that didn't feature any costumed criminals and had the Masked Manhunter in the dark streets of Gotham, investigating a ground level mystery. I guess, I let my imagination run away with me and hoped I would get the sort of Batman movie I've always imagined, where there wasn't this distraction of bright, glitzy escapees from a lunatic asylum.

Maybe Reeves never was saying what I thought he was. But giving the audience costumed crooks changes their expectations from the picture. They won't be in the proper frame of mind to follow a yarn that's all about the Batman searching for clues and investigating a complicated plot. They'll be waiting for the next shiney thing to pop up on screen. It's like giving kids a bag full of candies to munch on and then expecting them to settle down and listen to a bedtime story about Henry Huggins.

I think we'll get a good mix of down-to-Earth detective stuff and larger then life villains and Batman stuff, which I think is probably for the best.

So, somewhat Nolan/Noir-esque but maybe more comic booky and out there then what Nolan did.

[Jim Kelly]

For all the grit that we got in the Nolan movies, we nevertheless had a Bruce Wayne who depended on Alfred Pennyworth, Lucius Fox and Jim Gordon to do the heavy thinking.

[Frontier]

For all the grit that we got in the Nolan movies, we nevertheless had a Bruce Wayne who depended on Alfred Pennyworth, Lucius Fox and Jim Gordon to do the heavy thinking.

I think that might change here, if only because I think Reeves will emphasize Batman's detective skills more then we have senn in past movies on-top of all the other Batman staples.

[byrd156]

I think we'll get a good mix of down-to-Earth detective stuff and larger then life villains and Batman stuff, which I think is probably for the best.

So, somewhat Nolan/Noir-esque but maybe more comic booky and out there then what Nolan did.

This is what I'm hoping for. I want the atmosphere from the Burton movies, the drama and detail of the Nolan movies, and the costumed personalities from the 66 movie. Not exactly like them but a nice blend of campy, fun and dramatic.