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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    The spinoff that stars Dwayne Johnson is I think the main reason we are getting a Shazam sequel. Shazam wasn't a huge success (a shame because it deserved to be), but since it didn't have an insane budget it under performing isn't seen as big of a deal. Tying it in with Black Adam will hopefully help bolster the sequel.

    As it stands, he's not on the same level as Aquaman, Wonder Woman or Harley. Or the renewed interest a rebooted Batman and Superman will generate. I think at this point a well made JL without those two might do fine (especially if it has Gadot and Momoa)...but still wouldn't do as well if you had a good/great film with them in it along with WW, Aquaman and as much of the full classic roster as they can manage.
    That’s like saying the first two Avengers movies would have done better if Spider-man and Wolverine were in them. That’s too hypothetical and is not giving enough credit to the success of the non A-listers.
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    I am fine with superman and batman not being in the league. Just tell good standalone stories with them. Superman especially needs that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpaqueGiraffe17 View Post
    Shazam is apparently getting a sequel AND a spinoff. The financial and critical success of Arthur and Diana speak for themselves. Batman is getting rebooted probably completely separeate from the Affleck version. Superman.....who knows what's in store with him? Though, I guess if you want to get technical, the "dceu" is now the Arthur, Diana, Billy and Harley show now.
    Don't know why you're trying to make Batman and Superman sound like has-beens. Batman never got a solo film in the DCEU, and there's every reason to assume that the reboot is going to be hugely successful. And so what if Shazam is getting a sequel, never said it wasn't a success or wasn't worth continuing, just that it was only very moderately so.

    Do you really think Batman and Superman aren't going to make huge comebacks now that Snyder is gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpaqueGiraffe17 View Post
    That’s like saying the first two Avengers movies would have done better if Spider-man and Wolverine were in them. That’s too hypothetical and is not giving enough credit to the success of the non A-listers.
    But Spider-Man and Wolverine aren't classic Avengers members. It'd be more like if the first two Avengers movies didn't include Iron Man or Captain America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Don't know why you're trying to make Batman and Superman sound like has-beens. Batman never got a solo film in the DCEU, and there's every reason to assume that the reboot is going to be hugely successful. And so what if Shazam is getting a sequel, never said it wasn't a success or wasn't worth continuing, just that it was only very moderately so.

    Do you really think Batman and Superman aren't going to make huge comebacks now that Snyder is gone?
    Batman is clearly poised for a comeback under Reeves. Superman though? Nah, they’ve made no effort whatsoever to either move forward with Cavill or reboot. They’re letting the TV guys use him which is a sign there’s no plans to do anything with him on the film side. They could do a JL without Supes, Shazam could easily take his role, and Sivana is a better Lex than Eisenberg’s abortion of a Luthor.

    However I don’t think the JL is making a comeback anytime soon. The brand name is tainted for the moment, and there’s not really any point. They’re not building towards anything anymore, they’re letting the directors take the characters where they want. And that’s fine, even Marvel doesn’t have plans for an Avengers movie right now. Furthermore they’d have to redo everything since Snyder’s stuff is being jettisoned which means all the core relationships would need to be redone. So might as well just let Gal, Maoma, and Miller tell their stories and maybe in the 2030s start over again.

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    What's the status of New Gods and related projects if there are any? Ava seems still attached

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