DC/WB Films/Worlds (No Spoilers)

[stargazer01]

I think BoP might be mildly successful...but not for being a BoP movie.

I think what the masses like it's not always what the hardcore fans like. Look at Suicide Squad.. most fans dislike it but audiences liked it.

[Frontier]

I think what the masses like it's not always what the hardcore fans like. Look at Suicide Squad.. most fans dislike it but audiences liked it.

I guess. I think SS was more divisive or mixed then audiences overall liking it (but I might be downplaying it's success on that front).

[ChrisG]

I guess. I think SS was more divisive or mixed then audiences overall liking it (but I might be downplaying it's success on that front).

Agreed, it is considered as part of the failed DCEU.

[byrd156]

Gunn and Disney apparently made up. He’s directing GotG 3 after Suicide Squad.

Thank god. This is exciting as hell!

[Frontier]

Apparently Ezra Miller is intending to write the script for The Flash movie himself, along with Grant Morrison, to ensure he remains in the role.

[FlashEarthOne]

Apparently Ezra Miller is intending to write the script for The Flash movie himself, along with Grant Morrison, to ensure he remains in the role.

He wants a "darker" story... just how dark exactly? I already think it is problematic if the directors and lead actor are already clashing.

[Johnny]

Apparently Ezra Miller is intending to write the script for The Flash movie himself, along with Grant Morrison, to ensure he remains in the role.

If Ezra wants a "darker story", why didn't they just do Flashpoint like the original plan then. lol

[Ascended]

I think BOP could be great, but with Barbara's absence, too much Harley and mob enforcer Helena Bertinelli...I'm not 100% sure about that one.

Conceptually, the BoP are "Charlies Angels meets superheroes" and that's definitely a concept ripe for success. And even the inclusion of Harley isn't necessarily a bad thing; she's more popular with the general audience than all the Birds combined. She's got history with the Birds and interesting dynamics to play off of. Adding her to the story could be great and it wouldn't even be hard to pull off.

But what worries me is that, from the images we've seen, this *isnt* the BoP. All the successful superhero movies tap into the core appeal of the IP; the details change but the core elements we love about the characters is what the general audience ends up loving about the characters. And looking at the images of Canary and Huntress from the film......does anyone look at them and go "Oh yeah, I see the characters from the comic!" I mean, forget that the actress playing Dinah isn't white; does her body language, facial expression, clothing......does any of that feel like Dinah to anyone, because it doesn't to me. I don't care about the skin color but I dont "feel" Dinah in those images, yknow? And if the movie doesn't get the characters right they're not going to get anything else right either.

So the BoP have plenty of appeal....but I dunno if this is the BoP. Might turn out to be a different girl with the same name. I mean, we can't judge a whole movie by a handful of still images; this could be the best movie from DC ever. But does anyone really feel confident in it the way people seem confident in Shazam?

[ross61]

Conceptually, the BoP are "Charlies Angels meets superheroes" and that's definitely a concept ripe for success. And even the inclusion of Harley isn't necessarily a bad thing; she's more popular with the general audience than all the Birds combined. She's got history with the Birds and interesting dynamics to play off of. Adding her to the story could be great and it wouldn't even be hard to pull off.

But what worries me is that, from the images we've seen, this *isnt* the BoP. All the successful superhero movies tap into the core appeal of the IP; the details change but the core elements we love about the characters is what the general audience ends up loving about the characters. And looking at the images of Canary and Huntress from the film......does anyone look at them and go "Oh yeah, I see the characters from the comic!" I mean, forget that the actress playing Dinah isn't white; does her body language, facial expression, clothing......does any of that feel like Dinah to anyone, because it doesn't to me. I don't care about the skin color but I dont "feel" Dinah in those images, yknow? And if the movie doesn't get the characters right they're not going to get anything else right either.

So the BoP have plenty of appeal....but I dunno if this is the BoP. Might turn out to be a different girl with the same name. I mean, we can't judge a whole movie by a handful of still images; this could be the best movie from DC ever. But does anyone really feel confident in it the way people seem confident in Shazam?

I feel confident in BoP in the way Shazam. And to be extremely fair, Shazam is in a similar position as BoP in that it’s a very different version than most fans of their comics would like. Johns version of Shazam, which is the basis of this film, is still widely reviled by the dozens of Captain Marvel fans.

[El_Gato]

If Ezra wants a "darker story", why didn't they just do Flashpoint like the original plan then. lol

Because the studio and directors attached don't want a dark Flash film. Basically, Ezra Miller is about to join Ben Affleck and Will Smith in being recasted. We truly are in a new era for DC. Next up, Henry Cavill.

[byrd156]

Because the studio and directors attached don't want a dark Flash film. Basically, Ezra Miller is about to join Ben Affleck and Will Smith in being recasted. We truly are in a new era for DC. Next up, Henry Cavill.

And the DCEU will be all the better for it.

[Frontier]

Yeah, all credit to him as an actor, but I won't miss Ezra Miller's (Kid) Flash in the event he gets recasted.

[stargazer01]

Because the studio and directors attached don't want a dark Flash film. Basically, Ezra Miller is about to join Ben Affleck and Will Smith in being recasted. We truly are in a new era for DC. Next up, Henry Cavill.

What about the Reeves Batman flick? Will it have any comedy? My guess is no or very subtle.

[Swamp Thing 2099]

What about the Reeves Batman flick? Will it have any comedy? My guess is no or very subtle.

Matt Reeves isn't particularly known for comedic moments in his films.

[Confuzzled]

All the successful superhero movies tap into the core appeal of the IP;

Guardians of the Galaxy disagree.